Would you have reestablished the AT-fields?
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Would you have reestablished the AT-fields?
Sometimes I wonder if Shinji's desicion to discontinue the human
instrumentality project was the best choice. I mean there is a real upside
to the evolution that the SEELE people envisioned.
One, there would be no more suffering.
Two, everybody would be equal once and for all.
Three, lastly without the dependency on the protien based bodies of our
physical self the survival of humanity itself would almost be ensured.
instrumentality project was the best choice. I mean there is a real upside
to the evolution that the SEELE people envisioned.
One, there would be no more suffering.
Two, everybody would be equal once and for all.
Three, lastly without the dependency on the protien based bodies of our
physical self the survival of humanity itself would almost be ensured.
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CorporalChaos wrote:Nah. I would. I'd rather die than lose the ability to think for myself.
i agree, the whole "I think, therefore I am" thing gets me. I like my semi-sane thoughts.
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I'll take complementation with the Fruit of Life, but not with every single goddam human soul on the planet. Homogenous metabiological blob = teh lam0rz. If I want to go to a similar place, I'll become a monk and live in the mountains until I achieve nirvana, or whatever.
Best way to ensure continued existence of human life? Pack up Yui with some syringes and send her on her way.
Best way to ensure continued existence of human life? Pack up Yui with some syringes and send her on her way.
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consrv4us wrote:One, there would be no more suffering.
Two, everybody would be equal once and for all.
Three, lastly without the dependency on the protien based bodies of our
physical self the survival of humanity itself would almost be ensured.
- Suffering is the road to wisdom. Only the weak fear pain, and thus should either perish, or learn to face the realities they live in. And yay for Darwin. :P
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consrv4us wrote:One, there would be no more suffering.
Along with no more love, pleasure, happines, hope, or any other emotion. That would kind of suck in my opinion. I would come back in a heartbeat.
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Hunter21 wrote:consrv4us wrote:One, there would be no more suffering.
Along with no more love, pleasure, happines, hope, or any other emotion. That would kind of suck in my opinion. I would come back in a heartbeat.
I second that. That kind of existence would be like 'you're blind so you can't see bad things'. It's not you dont feel suffering, you just don't feel.
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Instrumentality as shown was much more like Sartre's Inferno. The discussion seems to have drifted to something much closer to the Buddhist idea of Nirvana (or the CoE latest take on Hell).
I think perspectives change with age...this snatch from an (unfinished) sf story of mine is apposite. The character is about the age I was when I wrote the piece, earlier this decade, and reflected some of my own leanings:
I think perspectives change with age...this snatch from an (unfinished) sf story of mine is apposite. The character is about the age I was when I wrote the piece, earlier this decade, and reflected some of my own leanings:
I wrote:While she set to work on the plateful, tending to the remaining demand of the meat on her conscious activity, she felt that she would be happy to be liberated from the tyranny of guts and bladder and appetites, in some angelic state of upload - cleaner, better, upgraded.
She must, she reflected, be getting old. Thinking back, she remembered when - and it must have been as a teenager, she had shared the distaste of the characters in Niven's Protector at the concept of trading the physical capacity for sex to receive enhanced intelligence and much extended lifespan. Now, she would be happy to transcend much more of her biological frame for the same outcome.
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Rawinder wrote:How exactly do you achieve complementation (i.e. "the interfusion of souls") with an organ? =P
By complementing my Fruit of Knowledge with it, of course.
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Reichu wrote:Rawinder wrote:How exactly do you achieve complementation (i.e. "the interfusion of souls") with an organ? =P
By complementing my Fruit of Knowledge with it, of course.
I don't understand. Complementation is all about filling the gaps in people's minds/hearts by fusing their souls together. What you're thinking of (FoL + FoK) is more like apotheosis.
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I'm using the word a different way intentionally to trick you. But seriously, that's what hokan literally means: "complement". FoL and FoK are complementary. So, from a certain point of view, acquiring both is another form of complementation. Is it Complementation ®? Well... I dunno. I don't see why there can't be more than one possibility.
Both Fruits =/= SoL, but in theory one could graduate from a puny mortal into something like an Apostle, but "better". Sounds like a rather more interesting form of ascension than being squashed into a hive mind and ceasing to exist.
Legend of the Past wrote:So Rachel would basically like to become a SoL. Intresting choice...
Both Fruits =/= SoL, but in theory one could graduate from a puny mortal into something like an Apostle, but "better". Sounds like a rather more interesting form of ascension than being squashed into a hive mind and ceasing to exist.
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