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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:49 pm

Whew. Okay. Just a few of my unpopular opinions about anime:

99.5% of it is sexist trash made for pedophiles.

Everyone who "reviews" anime with videos on YouTube & primarily (or worse ONLY) talks about anime is a fucking tool & has no right to talk about art.

Hiroyuki Imaishii is the only director working in televised anime who is worth talking about. Primarily because his work has a great graffiti art sensibility - his best work in the past decade is Panty & Stocking - & everything he does has a real tongue in cheek sarcastic edge.

With Anno, Imaishii & Tsurumaki gone Gainax is dead to me.

Dragonball sucks. It's always sucked. I realized it sucked when I was 13 & while watching Goku vs. Freeza in DragonballZ I learned there was about 200 episodes left & that "there was always a stronger bad guy".

Cowboy Bebop was not the coolest thing ever made. Still pretty good though.

Hayao Miyazaki really is "all that".

Akira is a very well-animated movie. It's also fucking awful. And no, I will NOT read the manga to "understand" the whole story.

All the easy to make jokes about why anime sucks - excess exposition, bad & awkward animation, terrible stories, sexist junk for overgrown man children - are spot on.

It's got a ton of flaws but Tenchi In Tokyo is a hell of a lot better, sharper & focused than everything else
Tenchi. This also means Sakuya Kumashiro is a far better match for the kid than anyone else in the franchise.

You can tell how awful a show will be based on the size of the character's eyes.

No one should have an anime character as their avatar on Twitter. No matter what you say it makes you look juvenile, ignorant & not worth taking seriously. (Here's okay since it's a site about a specific show)

A lot of the "comedy anime's" aren't funny. No, it's not because of culture differences. They are just not funny. At all.

I probably got some more but can't think of any right now.
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Postby Catamari » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:52 pm

Neon Genesis Evangelion is the worst anime ever made. Like, really. Who thought it would be a good idea to put a whiny-ass little bitch in control of a giant robot?

Now, Kodomo no Jikan? That's art. True art. It is only bested by one show - Boku no Pico.
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Postby Princess Asuka » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:12 pm

Sailor Moon and Madoka Magica are the best magical girl anime series.

They shouldn't have replaced the seiyuu for Tuxedo Mask and the inner senshi in Sailor Moon Crystal.

Also changing the opening theme was a bad move too, I like Moon Pride, but Moonlight Densetsu is way better.

The dub of Sailor Moon actually had some decent voice actors and it's not as bad as people say it is.

I enjoyed the Eva dub.
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Postby Alaska Slim » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:17 pm

View Original Postcatamari wrote:Neon Genesis Evangelion is the worst anime ever made. Like, really. Who thought it would be a good idea to put a whiny-ass little bitch in control of a giant robot?

Now, Kodomo no Jikan? That's art. True art. It is only bested by one show - Boku no Pico.

and I would be soo~ outraged if I knew what either of those shows were.

Srsly, you might as well be saying "Zatch Bell is better than Eva" for all the sense your moonspeak is making.

Gendo'sPapa wrote:Whew. Okay. Just a few of my unpopular opinions about anime:

99.5% of it is sexist trash made for pedophiles.

Nuh-uh pal, I crunched the numbers while debating with symbv, and since 2003, only 1/3 of anime have been moe-blobs. BP

Mecha is automatically made of win, unless it's Aquarion. Or a certain half of Gundam. Or was made when anime animation quality was more akin to cardboard cut outs.
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Postby Blue Monday » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:32 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Whew. Okay. Just a few of my unpopular opinions about anime:

I think this may just be my favourite post of all-time.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:36 am

View Original PostAlaska Slim wrote:and I would be soo~ outraged if I knew what either of those shows were.
Not knowing two of the classics of their genre? You do have some catching up to do. :devil:

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:You can tell how awful a show will be based on the size of the character's eyes.

So I chose a couple of big-eyed pics I had to hand...
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Postby Alaska Slim » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:58 am

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:Not knowing two of the classics of their genre? You do have some catching up to do. :devil:

Judging by your words, and before I seek them out, I have but two questions to ask.
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Postby Bryant » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:30 am

View Original PostPrincess Asuka wrote:
I enjoyed the Eva dub.


I also enjoy the Eva dub as well
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Postby pwhodges » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:20 am

View Original PostCatamari wrote:It is only bested by one show - Boku no Pico.

It's not so often that I actually regret learning about something new to me, but with this I have managed it in spades!
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Postby Bagheera » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:21 am

Oh, what the heck? Here are a few from me:

  • Eva makes sense.

  • The main arc of Cowboy Bebop was terrible; everything that made the show worth watching came from the standalone episodes.

  • GitS movie is very pretty, but ultimately goes nowhere.

  • Akira bored me to tears.

  • Macross Plus is overrated (nice tunes though).

  • Mirai Nikki is better than a lot of people think it is.

  • Elfen Lied would be brilliant if it were the story we got in the manga.

  • Trigun's bait and switch utterly ruined it.

  • FMA was better than Brotherhood.

Well, that's a start, anyway. Let's see how much trouble this gets me! :devil:
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Postby Catamari » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:45 am

View Original PostBagheera wrote:Mirai Nikki is better than a lot of people think it is.
I'm glad you agree, Baggi...
View Original PostBagheera wrote:Elfen Lied would be brilliant if it were the story we got in the manga.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I enjoyed Elfen Lied. The manga was better, no doubt, but the show is good if you want blood, tears, and tits. And you get all three.
View Original PostBagheera wrote:FMA was better than Brotherhood.
I don't what it is, but I can't bring myself to watch FMA at all. It's like Madoka Magicka for me. It's just so...boring.Don't kill me, Para.I still love you.


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I know! Bloody philistines.
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Postby StarShaper7 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:28 pm

View Original PostBagheera wrote:Oh, what the heck? Here are a few from me:

  • Eva makes sense.

  • The main arc of Cowboy Bebop was terrible; everything that made the show worth watching came from the standalone episodes.


Yep.

Yeah, Cowboy Bebop's main arc couldn't carry a series by itself. Or at least, I wouldn't like it as much if it weren't for the structure that allowed most of the episodes to be standalone stories

Aside from that, I only disagree with you on GitS. Haven't seen Macross, Mirai Nikki, Elfen Lied or Trigun (though I plan to). It's been so long since I read the FMA manga and watched both series that I don't remember enough to have an opinion on them. I might revisit the anime at some point, but that's unlikely. Too many episodes and I doubt I'll like them as much as I did back then.

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Postby Oz » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:59 pm

I don't really like it that this topic is used as an excuse to write in an excessively provocative way.

I had to go through MyAnimeList ratings to see if I actually have any particularly outrageous opinions, but I didn't really find any. I remember thinking that Now and Then, Here and There was way too heavy-handed and manipulative, which doesn't apparently reflect the consensus on the series. Another not-so-outrageous-but-perhaps-uncommon opinion is that Only Yesterday is my favorite Ghibli film.
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Postby pwhodges » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:07 pm

View Original PostOz wrote:I don't really like it that this topic is used as an excuse to write in an excessively provocative way.

Doesn't strike me that way, honestly. The word "controversial" in the title is also an indication of what to expect...
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Postby Shamsiel-kun » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:09 pm

View Original PostFireball wrote:I watched them both as an adult. MSG is a timeless classic. SEED is an abomination.


Things I hated about MSG (the movies. I haven't seen the series and don't plan to, seeing how tedious watching the movies was):
- Certainly not the best animation for its times. Even in the movies, which were partially reanimated, the QUALITY is often present.
- Excessively slowly moving story, especially during what I'd call "Tominoisms". If it was this grating in the movies, I just don't want to know how bad it was in the original series, with its 150 episodes. :vomit_duo:
- The spiritual segments with Lala. Gods, make them stop (to be honest, I also hated the bits with Flay in Seed :XP: ).
- Boneheaded decisions by about everyone, that only make sense if the plot was written without bothering with common sense.

Now Seed suffers from a lot of recycled animation, but at least it generally looks good. The music's quite good too. Seed Destiny is rather worse, especially the first half, but once Kira/Lacus comes back it gets a lot better (except for Athrun's character rape).

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Postby caragnafog dog » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:21 pm

View Original PostOz wrote: Another not-so-outrageous-but-perhaps-uncommon opinion is that Only Yesterday is my favorite Ghibli film.
I've seen it twice now and I'm leaning towards it as my favorite as well. I should rewatch Mononoke and Laputa before I say that for sure though.
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Postby Dataprime » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:24 pm

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:
DBZ generally seems to escape a lot of the hate that gets heaped on similar big shonen shows like Naruto/Bleach/etc.


Also many post-1993 shonen (jump) manga copied aspects from Dragon Ball. Most of it being inspirational. They all owe their fame to DB.
It's kind of like how when Star Wars became a hit in '77 and everybody wanted in
in on it. Before we knew it, many, many more sci-fi movies were being made in the later 70's/all of 80's

Now by NO means was Dragon Ball the first fighting manga or SW the first Sci-fi movie
but you cannot deny their crazy successes and helping to get the ball rolling in their genres.

For crying out loud Naruto's uniform colors are based off Goku's gi, Luffy's love for food again based off Goku's love for food.

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:44 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:It's not so often that I actually regret learning about something new to me, but with this I have managed it in spades!

You didn't actually go and watch it, did you? :chair:

@Bags: It's nice to see somebody else giving Future Diary a little more credit. It's a pretty damn fun ride!

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Postby pwhodges » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:45 pm

No, I didn't!

(And I'm another one who enjoyed Mirai Nikki.)

I even think Angel Beats! isn't as bad as it's made out to be, though its pacing is badly flawed.
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Postby robersora » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:07 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:No, I didn't!

(And I'm another one who enjoyed Mirai Nikki.)


I could take this more seriously, if postet there.

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:I even think Angel Beats! isn't as bad as it's made out to be, though its pacing is badly flawed.


I don't get why would one bother with Angel Beats, when there's Haibane Renmei?
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