Fanservice in NGE? I don't see it, man.

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Fanservice in NGE? I don't see it, man.

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Postby Rahaquiel-2D1S » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:52 am

For people who say nudity, Adam and Eve were nekkid in bible pictures and stuff. Nudity shows someone in a "natural state", if you will.
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Postby the_seventh_child » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:58 am

That's what hentai are for!
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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:38 am

Misato's shapely rump filling the screen; camera angles which forget that the girls have heads; Rei emerging from the shower in just a towel; Asuka's pantsu ... nope, no fanservice at all.
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Postby Kaysow » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:21 pm

The standards have changed.

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Postby DatDude » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:46 pm

Umm ritsuko in the swim suits Asuka in the suim suit Misato boobies bouncing all over what more ya want man ?
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Postby Rahaquiel-2D1S » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:50 pm

People said that FS is a cheap way to draw in viewers. Ppl say that NGE has fanservice so I wanted to know where it was.
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Postby Legend of the Past » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:03 pm

Mr. Tines wrote: Asuka's pantsu


I don't remember THAT. Which episode was it?

Oh, and let's not forget Asuka in 26'. She stands in front of Shinji with his boobs at his face and tells him she's willing to watch him jerk off.
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Postby felineki » Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:13 pm

What about all of the gratuitous core shots? :P

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:04 pm

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Mr. Tines wrote: Asuka's pantsu


I don't remember THAT. Which episode was it?


Ep #8 - we only get to see the waistband, mind you.
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Postby Kaysow » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:14 pm

IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. You're just not noticing, because animes that are considered "fan serving" today would be considered soft porn ten years ago.

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Postby narcosis219 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:43 pm

uh... someone mind telling me what fanservice is?

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Postby Kaysow » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:20 pm

Suggestive angles, redundant shots of too-much-flesh/underwear and stuff like that. Think of how often we get accidental groping, touching and flashing in anime. See a hand, see a tit close by, and rest assured they'll meet up soon enough.
Not sure that has a lot to do with pleasing the fans, but it's a stupid fucking joke we all grew sick of in the 1900s, and I'd like to bring it to attention.

Just take a look in episode 2 when Misato and Shinji are at the dinnertable, and how when Misato leans over the table she gets a camera right up her asshole.

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Postby Timstuff » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:54 pm

Also, Shinji is constantly having his ladies' breasts shoved in his face in like, every other episode.

As for nudity in Evangelion, it seems to come in three varieties.

A) To emphesise humiliation

B) To heighten the disturbing aspect of a scene

C) Fanservice

When you see the tank full of naked Rei clones, that's B. When Ritsuko is naked and being interrogated by SEELE, that's A. When Misato is in the bathtub, that's C. When Asuka is naked and dying in the bathtub, that's A. When Shinji falls ontop of Rei in her apartment, it's C. When Asuka and Misato are at the hotsprings, that's C. I could go on all day...

So yes, there is fanservice in Evangelion.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:56 am

narcosis219 wrote:uh... someone mind telling me what fanservice is?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_service

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Postby Faußtin » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:23 am

Timstuff wrote: When Shinji falls ontop of Rei in her apartment, it's C.

I just wanted to mention that. If thats not fan service, than what?! Not that I didn't like that scene though... :P :D :lol:
Fan service is not a bad thing; it gives your brain a little time to relax until the real stuff comes. Until FS is kept under control, I have no problem with it. NGE has this good balance. Sailor Moon was the other end of the rope: the whole series is a fan service. Yuck. Though it was funny at times... at times... :P
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Postby Timstuff » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:26 pm

I agree. Fanservice doesn't have to be a bad thing, and for the most part I think NGE finds a good balance... Although I still feel that Shinji's hand on Rei's naked breast was un-necessary.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:48 pm

Timstuff wrote:Although I still feel that Shinji's hand on Rei's naked breast was un-necessary.


It quickly and effectively establishes things about both Rei's and Shinji's personalities, though.

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Postby Faußtin » Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:14 pm

Mr. Tines wrote:
Timstuff wrote:Although I still feel that Shinji's hand on Rei's naked breast was un-necessary.


It quickly and effectively establishes things about both Rei's and Shinji's personalities, though.

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The one (1) ep of Sailor Moon I've ever seen didn't look like fanservice to me; not when compared with Najica or Burn-Up

I've seen a few dozen episodes almost a decade before. And well... lets just say that in time even more "awesome" chicks will appear with "great power" and they'll end the life of the enemy in quite stupid ways. That story is a typical TV-series. -_- The end-game-boss is always killed the same way, and the charatcers have miserable little problems and they have a miserable little personality to solve it in a miserable way. Yuck.

I think that scene with Shinji and Ayanami speaks a lot of their personality: Shinji is clumsy (and horny to be honest... but can't blame him. I'd go mad if I would be sorrouned hot ladies like Asuka, Ayanami, Misato, Ritsuko, et cetera :wink: :P :D), and Ayanami is so calm, that she can freeze Hell. Both literally and allegoricaly (:wink: :D). And I would like to mention that I was DAMN jelaous of Shinji when I saw that particular scene. Shinji tends to get his filthy paws on the best things on Earth. And in this case, I mean that literally.... :wink: :P :D
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Postby Legend of the Past » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:26 am

Faußtin wrote:I think that scene with Shinji and Ayanami speaks a lot of their personality: Shinji is clumsy (and horny to be honest... but can't blame him. I'd go mad if I would be sorrouned hot ladies like Asuka, Ayanami, Misato, Ritsuko, et cetera :wink: :P :D), and Ayanami is so calm, that she can freeze Hell. Both literally and allegoricaly (:wink: :D). And I would like to mention that I was DAMN jelaous of Shinji when I saw that particular scene. Shinji tends to get his filthy paws on the best things on Earth. And in this case, I mean that literally.... :wink: :P :D


You shouldn't blame him in the first place. He's a fourteen year old teen who's had a messed-up childhood. When I was fourteen I was easily that horny and clumsy when I was. Well, I'd never do something like the hospital scene... But then one could claim Shinji wasn't quite in his right mind in the time.

Like Tony Soprano said: 'He's thirteen, he gets and erection every ten minutes!'.

And, if one were to ignore the fact Rei's either falling apart or is ghostilly horrifying, you could call of EoE fanservice. Or outright Hentai.
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Postby reagen » Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:29 pm

Yeah, whatever!! I'm just happy I watch Evangelion for everything it has...
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