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Postby Bagheera » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:00 am

Edit: screw it, we're deep into "WTF?" already and I'm all but certain this tangent will be sent to the graveyard anyway. I'm goin' to bed.
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Postby ElMariachi » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:29 am

View Original PostBagheera wrote:"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."

Shinji's lacking the serenity, you're lacking the wisdom.

So yeah, stupid parallel is stupid.

I would rather say that Shinji lacks the wisdom, to know when to fold it and don't cling stubbornly to whatever thing he already decided.

I agree with everything else you said.
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Postby pwhodges » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:37 am

Well, I'd say that if he's missing either attribute, he can't have the wisdom to choose between them - so you're agreeing really.
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Postby amitakartok » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:28 pm

Story epilogue up. Happy end is now valid for everyone.
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Postby ElMariachi » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:20 pm

Well, that takes care of the remaining plot points left hanging in the previous chapters : Fuyutsuki died(probably when the Wunder lifted off the Black Moon), Yui is confirmed as being the one who took care of Shinji and Rei and guided the carcass of the Wunder back on Earth during the three years time skip, saving their lives. And if her soul is in this afterlife place, that means that EVA-01 don't have a soul inside anymore, so it's probable that it won't reactivate ever again(better for everyone)

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Postby Stillborn » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:38 pm

I'm satisfied with this ending.

But the very first thing that came to my mind after reading it...

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Postby ElMariachi » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:59 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:Well, that takes care of the remaining plot points left hanging in the previous chapters : Fuyutsuki died(probably when the Wunder lifted off the Black Moon), Yui is confirmed as being the one who took care of Shinji and Rei and guided the carcass of the Wunder back on Earth during the three years time skip, saving their lives. And if her soul is in this afterlife place, that means that EVA-01 don't have a soul inside anymore, so it's probable that it won't reactivate ever again(better for everyone)

Still I can't believe how easy Gendo of Kozo came off : they almost destroyed mankind, and now they are in metaphysical Bahamas with blue oceans enjoying parties of Shogi and spectral cocktails for eternity, with Yui even joining them!
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Postby pwhodges » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:39 pm

I would rather not have had that epilogue, really.
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Postby Stillborn » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:45 pm

Because it's blasphemy in Eva when everyone is happy. :rolleyes:
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Postby pwhodges » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:14 pm

Nah - it just seemed too disconnected from the remainder of the story to me; it ended at the end.
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Postby ElMariachi » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:25 pm

Well... I confess that this epilogue is kind of my doing : as you may know(or not) I was Kraven's beta-reader for this fic, pointing out errors of spellings or about the setting(example : designing Ramiel as the Fifth Angel instead of the Sixth or Asuka's eyepatch glowing green instead of blue) and other potential plot holes.

Well in a comment I talked about the fact we don't have any information about what happened to Fuyutsuki and Yui, and I think that's what incited him to make this epilogue, to wrap up the last hanging threads.
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Postby Stillborn » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:35 pm

I somehow suspected you had something to do with it, since it does ties all the points you mentioned after chapter 29.
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