Thoughts about Mari

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The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby esselfortium » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:35 pm

View Original PostTheTuna wrote:I'd also like to know what's the story behind Asuka wearing a pin that's a symbol representing her and a symbol representing Mari joined together; the implication would seem to be that they are friends or have an understanding at the very least, yet it seems that we're pretty much only going to see them piloting in 3.0 and so the rapport that they have developed won't be explored at all. That would've been a great way to give Mari some character development, but I doubt it'll ever be addressed now.

I like this as a theory, but I'm not sure what the second pin is. (picture) Asuka is represented by a skull with an eyepatch, and Mari is represented by a blue and red.... nipple? :ehh:

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Postby Mr. Tines » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:39 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:I like this as a theory, but I'm not sure what the second pin is.
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Postby TheTuna » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:44 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:I like this as a theory, but I'm not sure what the second pin is. (picture) Asuka is represented by a skull with an eyepatch, and Mari is represented by a blue and red.... nipple? :ehh:


As Mr. Tines said, it's an RAF symbol, and Mari is British.

People have been jumping all over this as evidence of a romantic relationship between Mari and Asuka, but it also works very well simply as evidence that Asuka has finally embraced the idea of working closely with others and maybe even having a friend.

It's a significant accessory; they call attention to it in the artbook and it's the only piece of flair on her hat. As such, I'd really like them to address why she's wearing the pin, even if only in passing.

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Postby esselfortium » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:46 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force_roundels[/url]

Ah, awesome!

The pins are a really cool little detail for backstory. Pity they couldn't have given their friendship any actual focus beyond a subtle hint like that, though.

edit: As an aside, I love that this implies they finally let Asuka make a friend. And that her friend is not named Shinji. :P
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Postby TheTuna » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:49 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:Ah, awesome!

The pins are a really cool little detail for backstory. Pity they couldn't have given their friendship any actual focus beyond a subtle hint like that, though.


Yeah, I hope for a more in-depth examination of their relationship in 4.0, especially since it'd be an effective way simultaneously to develop Asuka more and actually give Mari some depth as a character. I'm not confident we'll get any more, but we'll see.

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Postby bladerj » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:25 pm

View Original PostTheTuna wrote:yet it seems that we're pretty much only going to see them piloting in 3.0.


After kaworu and Shinji tandam eva, i'm pretty sure they will fan service mari and Asuka in a single frankstein eva.
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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:01 am

Does Mari spend a single frame of the movie outside of the entry plug?
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Postby duo_rei » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:46 pm

View Original PostSeele00TextOnly wrote:Does Mari spend a single frame of the movie outside of the entry plug?


Now that you mentioned it.... I don't think she did! But she did drink and/or eat LOADS inside the entry plug (which I found rather.... odd lol), so I guess she lives there now?? ;)

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Postby Reichu » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:08 pm

Eating and drinking while submerged in a pungent fluid? Doesn't sound very practical. Not to mention very good for the LCL purification systems.

So has Mari become a hikikomori who has the unlikely benefit of being able to take her room everywhere? :p

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Postby duo_rei » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:48 am

I totally thought my eyes were playing tricks on me the first time I saw that scene XD
There were lots of fast-food looking cups with straws scattered around her seat (apparently Mari likes her room messy!). Couldn't tell if she was eating too, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was rocking the beer & edamame combo considering the Showa Oyaji vibe in her....
As long as what she's drinking is not made out of LCL LOL

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Postby Grub » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:55 am

View Original Postduo_rei wrote:I totally thought my eyes were playing tricks on me the first time I saw that scene XD
There were lots of fast-food looking cups with straws scattered around her seat (apparently Mari likes her room messy!). Couldn't tell if she was eating too, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was rocking the beer & edamame combo considering the Showa Oyaji vibe in her....
As long as what she's drinking is not made out of LCL LOL


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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:58 am

View Original Postduo_rei wrote:There were lots of fast-food looking cups with straws scattered around her seat
This is so stupid I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around it. So she's like a fish; she lives, eats, and breathes while submerged in a pool of her own filth. I hope she at least leaves to use the restroom...
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Postby robersora » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:00 am

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Well, Mari loves LCL, so it's only natural for her to be in the Entry Plug...
Also, maybe it's a joke of the creators, because Mari has nothing to do outside the plug.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:14 am

I wonder if she ever comes out, because it doesn't seem so. She must take LCL showers.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:24 am

So when she gets her period, what does she do? Just let it all loose in her suit?

(As a girl, these thoughts come to mind immediately...)

Well, with any luck, Mari will overcome her hikikomori tendencies. If an Eva pilot voiced by Maaya Sakamoto who can wear pink and pilot a pink biomech without seeming even remotely girly can accomplish that... maybe there is still hope for some of us!

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Postby UrsusArctos » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:07 pm

Forget her period, what about the contents of her large intestine and urinary bladder? She can't unload those into LCL, can she? Unless the plugsuit is like an astronaut suit and has a port for emptying body waste into a storage tank on the Eva, from where it'd be collected...

...but maybe that's taking it a little too far. Maybe Mari does leave the plug to go to the toilet or shower when she absolutely must, just that we don't see her do it.
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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:51 pm

Okay so in the new trailer there's a shot that has Mari with one of her straws.
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I'm going to hope that it's some sort of one-way, only-when-sucking straw that isn't leaking smoothie all over into the stuff she's breathing. She's definitely a very eccentric girl.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:14 pm

Maybe the plug isn't filled with LCL at the time?

...Maybe?

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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:25 pm

More thoughts about Mari. This is from way back at the 2.22 'next time' preview
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Now, assuming a word was ever actually written there, and considering the font and the centering of the line in keeping with the others, only a few known Eva universe things at the time really fit in. Kaworu? Seele? Of course now we have a third, Wille.

Regardless of the actual party, if this trailer is supposed to be canon in-between story as we surmise, there's still definitely something more about Mari.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:29 pm

In the trailer, Mari and the group of Rei are in the same room. The blanked-out text would logically be referring to the latter, then.


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