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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:43 pm

View Original PostKendrix wrote:Seems like Mari lives and Anno will make her and Asuka double-pilot after all.
Given the relationship between the next episode preview in Ha and the film that came out this weekend, I would take anything in Q's next time preview as pure misdirection.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:45 pm

According to the JP Wikipedia page, 08+02 is pink on the right and red on the left.

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Postby Olmer » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:06 pm

I would be pretty disappointed if 4.0 is (again) about resetting the world.
I think that we (and Kaworu) learned the hard way in 3.0 that Anno doesn't want us to reset and live in the past. He wants us to live on instead and find the value in what we have left.
If somebody tries the reset in 4.0, the heads will roll imo.
I would much rather have Anno show me Shinji somehow accepting the world he lives in (and the world accepting him) in a creative and non-boring way. I'm pretty sure it's easy-peasy for a director of his format.

edit:

Was thinking about who could bring a bit of light into Shinji's life now that everything's gone to hell and it dawned on me...

Sakura Suzuhara. She's in a semi-good age, she's cute, and it seems that she already showed some compassion for him.
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Postby 4thImpact » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:22 pm

View Original PostOlmer wrote:I would much rather have Anno show me Shinji somehow accepting the world he lives in (and the world accepting him) in a creative and non-boring way. I'm pretty sure it's easy-peasy for a director of his format.


Does sound more like Anno's MO. Essentially a large scale version of the TV ending, where instead of Shinji accepting just his own sh** and moving on, everyone accepts everyone's sh** and moves on.

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Postby Kendrix » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:20 pm

The one thing that all of these movies did, the only thing the Rebuild movies with their vastly different styles have in common, is that neither of them did what a huge part of the audience wanted them to.
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Postby Darkwing » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:54 pm

View Original PostOlmer wrote:I would be pretty disappointed if 4.0 is (again) about resetting the world.
I think that we (and Kaworu) learned the hard way in 3.0 that Anno doesn't want us to reset and live in the past. He wants us to live on instead and find the value in what we have left.
If somebody tries the reset in 4.0, the heads will roll imo.
I would much rather have Anno show me Shinji somehow accepting the world he lives in (and the world accepting him) in a creative and non-boring way. I'm pretty sure it's easy-peasy for a director of his format.

edit:

Was thinking about who could bring a bit of light into Shinji's life now that everything's gone to hell and it dawned on me...

Sakura Suzuhara. She's in a semi-good age, she's cute, and it seems that she already showed some compassion for him.


The problem is how is Shinji going accept what he has caused, and be accepted by others, and it won't feel like a cop out/ Shinji bieng let off easy. "Wow I feel really bad about almost killing everyone, and killing a lot of people, but now I accept it, and can move on and be happy, and I hope you all can accept me after I killed a bunch of your loved ones due to the issues I used to have." "Of course. We can now accept and forgive you." That's a pretty damn lame, and narritivly unsatisfying. But on the other hand how can Shinji be happy and be accepted in the world when he has all the Guilt and hatred for what he's done? I don't figure on a reset, but I don't see how that's supposed to work.
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Postby UBERGEEKZILLA » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:18 pm

considering the different direction rebuild has been taking i think 4.0 is going to be a straightforward final battle where Shinji will reedeem himself and save the world. despite how complicated the original series was i dont think they are trying to do that with rebuild.

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Postby Darkwing » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:47 pm

The question is considering how bad what he did is, how big must his act be to truly earn his redemption? Shinji may have to do a Redemption equals Death.

I'm awful at predicting Eva's plot. About the only thing I feel safe in saying is that somehow Shinji ends up back in Unit-01. And for irony it's Misato who shoves him in. Actually It'd be intresting if Shinji ends up like Asuka was in the original movies. They put his comatose self in the Eva to keep him safe, and that is the place he finds hope, and the will to live. Damn we need a thread for our almost fan fiction speculation. Granted I haven't been right yet about Eva's plot.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:49 pm

Just confirmed that the symbol in Final's title is NOT pronounced when narrator-Misato reads the title out. Great...

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Postby robersora » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:49 pm

Ok.
I'm a little concerned.
http://www.evangelion.co.jp/final.html
no word about 2013 anymore.
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Postby Xard » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:50 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Ok.
I'm a little concerned.
http://www.evangelion.co.jp/final.html
no word about 2013 anymore.


hahahahah

IT BEGINS

SEE YOU IN 2015 SPACE COWBOY
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:54 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:http://www.evangelion.co.jp/final.html
Title as image with alt-text

[code:1]alt="次回 シン・エヴァンゲリオン劇場版"[/code:1]

so no resolution of exactly which musical symbol it is (or whether this is another of Anno's punalicious film titles, depending how you parse a colon).
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Postby Xard » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:57 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:or whether this is another of Anno's punalicious film titles


I think this is pretty much certain. It fits both the part about "Eva is story that repeats" and "finale" part. It gets both meanings across and given "Eva's a story that repeats" and how EoE also ends in repetition of kind - while still being "end" of story - this fits things really well.
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby CJD » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:59 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Ok.
I'm a little concerned.
http://www.evangelion.co.jp/final.html
no word about 2013 anymore.


Honestly, you shouldn't have expected it for 2013 anyway.

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Postby robersora » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:20 pm

View Original PostCJD wrote:Honestly, you shouldn't have expected it for 2013 anyway.


But I do want! :/
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Postby Kaname Langley » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:22 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:hahahahah

IT BEGINS

SEE YOU IN 2015 SPACE COWBOY


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Postby Jayfive » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:35 pm

All I will (can) say about 4.0 is I have a feeling we'll get our happy ending. But by Christ we (along with the characters) will have to bloody well earn it.

The highs seem all the more higher when you been in the depths. And I think a Rebuild-era Anno understands that.

And I dont even think it will be a classically happy ending like Shinji carrying Asuka through a newly-restored Tokyo-3 into the sunset or something.

Im envisioning something, tonally speaking, like Re-Take's ending.
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Postby StratoSakuya...AF » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:37 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:hahahahah

IT BEGINS

SEE YOU IN 2015 SPACE COWBOY


O_o O_o O_o O_o
SO THERE I WAS BEING KUBO, WHEN THE EDITORS CAME IN AND WERE LIKE "YOU NEED TO DO MORE THAN PANELS OF WHITE PILLARS AND BLACKGROUNDS!" AND I WAS LIKE "FUCK YOU, I'M KUBO!" SO THEY WERE LIKE "WELL HOW ABOUT SOMEBODY DYING?" AND I WAS LIKE "FUCK YOU, I'M KUBO!" AND I MADE LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY. I LOVE MY LIFE.

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Postby UBERGEEKZILLA » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:43 pm

View Original PostJayfive wrote:All I will (can) say about 4.0 is I have a feeling we'll get our happy ending. But by Christ we (along with the characters) will have to bloody well earn it.

The highs seem all the more higher when you been in the depths. And I think a Rebuild-era Anno understands that.

And I dont even think it will be a classically happy ending like Shinji carrying Asuka through a newly-restored Tokyo-3 into the sunset or something.

Im envisioning something, tonally speaking, like Re-Take's ending.




i agree. i dont think anno is a troll like people say. i think that rebuild is gonna end in a simplier happier way then the original series did. im expecting a simple good defeats evil ending where Shinji reedeems himself. i think mari and Asuka will survive at least too

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Postby TheTuna » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:47 pm

Assuming that the preview holds true, I think we are indeed going to see Mari and Asuka double pilot FrankenEva, given that the original plan for Mari in 2.0 was to have her share an entry plug with Asuka at some point.

I'd really love for this to happen because they have a fantastic dynamic, but I assume pretty much everything is up in the air at this point given the transition from 2.0 to 3.0.


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