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Postby Bomby von Bombsville » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:10 pm

I realize it's a bit late in the year, but I would like to take over and revive this fun little thing we did last year. If this seems like a repetitive thread with the "last film you watched" thread still open, I won't complain if it gets closed.

One of the main reasons I'd like to do this is to stimulate discussion of film, which has obviously been waning since several of our most active film buffs have left. Reporting which films we watched for the sake of data collecting would compel us to report and write about pretty much every single film we watch. I do miss the former film subculture we had here. I realize this probably won't completely restore it, but increasing film discussion would be better than not increasing film discussion... right?

Oz decided he didn't want to do it this year, which is quite understandable, but I'm secretly a big fan of analyzing data and creating graphs and charts and stuff. Expect some creative data collection from me.

Anyway, if we are going to do this, I'd like to ask that you all put the titles of the films you watch in bold. It makes it easier for me to keep track of and collect data. If there are multiple films with the same title (i.e. Election or The Mission) it would be helpful to add the name of the director as well.

So yeah... anyone up to doing this again?

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Most recent films I watched were The Bride with White Hair and Nyfes. I already wrote about them in the other thread, so I won't repeat my thoughts here.
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Postby child of Lilith » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:11 pm

Stuff I bore witness to:

Bad Ass: Typical B movie. Even Ron Perlman was phoning it in.
Michael Clayton: Excellent. One of those rare occasions when I've really got nothing to complain about.
An American Werewolf in London: Also excellent. Very pleased my fond memories of this movie turned out to be true. Unlikely that damn movie The Keep! :raz:
Troll Hunter: Pretty good overall with only a few nitpicky thing to complain about. Super glad I watched it with subs though.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:22 pm

View Original Postchild of Lilith wrote:An American Werewolf in London: Also excellent. Very pleased my fond memories of this movie turned out to be true. Unlikely that damn movie The Keep! :raz:

It also had some of the best spacial effects I've ever seen. That transformation sequence was very detailed for it's time. :)
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Postby child of Lilith » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:35 pm

Totally! Even by todays standards it was still great. Though I preferred the look of his friend when he showed up again for the first time. Dat open windpipe!
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:41 pm

yeah Rick Baker is the best in the business so it's to be expected.
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Postby Oz » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:32 pm

Xard and I watched Tatsuya Mori's A yesterday.
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Postby Fazmotron » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:11 pm

I have a list of all the films I watched during the first half of this year, if you're interested:

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January
1. Warrior (2011)
2. Kill Bill vol. 1 (2003)
3. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Extended) (2001)
4. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (Extended) (2002)
5. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Extended) (2003)
6. The Hills Have Eyes (1977)
7. The Warriors (1979)
8. Darkness (2002)
9. The Aristocrats (2005)
10. The Descendants (2011)
11. Idiocracy (2006)
12. Paintball (2009)
13. Gulliver’s Travels (2010)
14. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2012)
15. Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes (2011)
16. Escape From L.A. (1996)
17. Underworld: Awakening (2012)

February
18. A Few Best Men (2012)
19. Tron: Legacy (2010)
20. Sherlock Holmes: A Game Of Shadows (2011)
21. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (2011)
22. Jackass 3D (in 2D) (2010)
23. A Fistful Of Dollars (1964)
24. Chronicle (2012)
25. Primer (2004)
26. The Brothers Bloom (2008)
27. For A Few Dollars More (1965)
28. The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (Extended) (1966)
29. Pandorum (2009)
30. Galaxy Quest (1999)
31. Wild Target (2010)
32. Dark Star (1975)
33. Safe House (2012)
34. Green Lantern (2011)
35. Bleach Movie 4: Hell Chapter (2010)
36. Catfish (2010)
37. Contact (1997)
38. Panic Room (2002)
39. The Thing (2011)
40. Redline (2009)
41. The Quiet Earth (1985)
42. Killer Elite (2011)
43. The Adjustment Bureau (2011)
44. The Jackal (1997)

March
45. The Recruit (2003)
46. 11'09"01 September 11 (2002)
47. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (2010)
48. Hackers (1995)
49. Love and Other Drugs (2010)
50. Robocop 3 (1993)
51. Sunshine (2007)
52. I, Robot (2004)
53. The Island (2005)
54. 28 Days Later (2002)
55. The Grey (2012)
56. 28 Weeks Later (2007)
57. Broken Blossoms (1919)
58. 127 Hours (2010)
59. Dark City: Director’s Cut (1998)
60. Thor (2011)
61. Forbidden Planet (1956)
62. Ararat (2002)
63. Imposter (2002)
64. Limitless (2011)
65. The Illusionist (2006)
66. The Cooler (2003)
67. Grosse Pointe Blank (1997)
68. The Crow (1994)
69. Knocked Up (2007)
70. Dreamcatcher (2003)
71. Drive (2011)
72. True Grit (2010)
73. Metropolis (1927)
74. John Carter (2012)
75. The Great Train Robbery (1903)
76. His Girl Friday (1940)
77. Knowing (2009)
78. Mystic River (2003)
79. American Gangster (2007)
80. Matchstick Men (2003)
81. Body Of Lies (2008)
82. Paradise Now (2005)
83. The A-Team (Extended) (2010)
84. Déjà Vu (2006)
85. Election (1999)
86. In The Line Of Fire (1993)
87. Le Voyage Dans La Lune (A Trip To The Moon) (1902)
88. Sucker Punch (2011)
89. Altered States (1980)
90. Black Hawk Down (2001)
91. 21 Jump Street (2012)
92. Double Indemnity (1944)
93. Aliens (Extended)(1986)
94. Alien 3 (Assembly Cut)(1992)
95. Alien Resurrection (1997)
96. Alien vs. Predator (2004)
97. Festen (1998)
98. War Games (1983)
99. Mind Game (2004)
100. The Matrix (1999)
101. The Matrix Reloaded (2003)
102. The Matrix Revolutions (2003)
103. The Game (1997)
104. The Hunger Games (2012)
105. A Woman Under The Influence (1974)
106. The Shadow (1994)
107. Caché (Hidden)(2005)
108. Somersault (2004)

April
109. The Fifth Element (1997)
110. The Thin Red Line (1998)
111. V For Vendetta (2006)
112. Wrath of the Titans (2012)
113. Coffy (1973)
114. The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003)
115. Watchmen (Director’s Cut) (2009)
116. 21 Grams (2003)
117. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
118. Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002)
119. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
120. Star Wars (Original Theatrical Cut) (1977)
121. American Pie: Reunion (2012)
122. Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (Original Theatrical Cut) (1980)
123. Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (Original Theatrical Cut) (1983)
124. Blue Velvet (1986)
125. Lost Highway (1997)
126. Spartacus (1960)
127. Lolita (1962)
128. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb (1964)
129. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
130. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
131. Barry Lyndon (1975)
132. The Shining (1980)
133. Full Metal Jacket (1987)
134. 2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984)
135. Eyes Wide Shut (1999)
136. Battleship (2012)
137. Do The Right Thing (1989)
138. Timecrimes (2007)
139. Genius Party Beyond (2008)
140. The World (2004)
141. Time Bandits (1981)
142. Children Of Men (2006)
143. The Number 23 (Extended) (2007)
144. Legend (Director’s Cut) (1985)
145. Bad Eggs (2003)
146. Memories of Underdevelopment (1968)
147. Bronson (2008)
148. Infernal Affairs (2002)
149. The Seventh Seal (1957)
150. Tron: Legacy (2010)
151. Red Dragon (2002)
152. Hulk (2003)
153. The Incredible Hulk (2008)
154. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
155. Iron Man (2008)
156. The Avengers (2012)

May
157. The Battle of Chile Part 1: The Insurrection of the Bourgeoisie (1975)
158. The Departed (2006)
159. An American Werewolf In London (1981)
160. Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol (2011)
161. Battle Royale (Director’s Cut) (2000)
162. What Time Is It There? (2001)
163. The Last Samurai (2003)
164. Lethal Weapon (Director’s Cut) (1987)
165. Lethal Weapon 2 (Director’s Cut) (1989)
166. Lethal Weapon 3 (Director’s Cut) (1992)
167. Lethal Weapon 4 (1998)
168. Last Ride (2009)
169. Bright Star (2009)
170. Another Earth (2011)
171. The Five-Year Engagement (2012)
172. Y Tu Mamá También (2001)
173. Blade (1998)
174. Blade II (2002)
175. Blade: Trinity (2004)
176. Hanna (2011)
177. The Nines (2007)
178. J.S.A.: Joint Security Area (2000)
179. 300 (2007)
180. Smokin’ Aces (2007)
181. Tekkonkinkreet (2006)
182. The Avengers (2012)
183. Brokeback Mountain (2005)
184. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992)
185. Sin City (2005)
186. Priest (2011)
187. Chain Reaction (1996)
188. Spawn (1997)
189. Dark Shadows (2012)
190. Happiness (1998)
191. Les Misérables (1998)
192. Akira (1988)
193. Spirited Away (2001)
194. Darkman (1990)
195. The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn (2011)
196. The Italian Job (2003)
197. The Dictator (2012)
198. Minority Report (2002)
199. Solaris (1972)
200. Stalker (1979)
201. Syndromes and a Century (2006)
202. Men In Black 3 (2012)
203. Syriana (2005)
204. Solaris (2002)
205. Primer (2004)

June
206. Moolaadé (2004)
207. The Evil Dead (1981)
208. Raging Bull (1980)
209. Dragnet (1987)
210. The Darkest Hour (2011)
211. The Omega Man (1971)
212. I Am Legend (Alternate Version) (2007)
213. Prometheus (2012)
214. My Tehran For Sale (2009)
215. Prometheus (2012)
216. Super (2010)
217. THX 1138 (Director’s Cut) (1971)
218. Prometheus (2012)
219. Electronic Labyrinth: THX 1138 4EB (1967)
220. Hugo (2011)
221. The Impossible Voyage (1904)
222. Le Voyage Dans La Lune (A Trip To The Moon) (1902)
223. Tron: Legacy (2010)
224. Snow White And The Huntsman (2012)
225. Resident Evil (2002)
226. Resident Evil: Apocalypse (2004)
227. Resident Evil: Extinction (2007)
228. The Interview (1998)
229. Outland (1981)
230. Metropia (2009)
231. Hedgehog In The Fog (1975)
232. The Heron And The Crane (1974)
233. The Battle Of Kerzhenets (1971)
234. Tale Of Tales (1979)


You want discussion, here's something to start with.

I think I'll stick with the monthly posting of the films I've watched, unless I want to talk about something specifically I've just seen. So don't bother counting up all the separate film posts I make and just count the monthly posts, otherwise you'll get doubles in your analysis.

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Loved this movie so much when I saw it on TV a few months ago that I recently ordered the BD. Everything about it is so spot on, the atmosphere that it creates is brilliant, this is how horror should be done.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:23 pm

Alien Vs. Predator: Requiem. Haven't seen the first one. My brother got the Blu-Ray for this at the Blockbuster Video closing for a dollar or something, and I watched it for the hell of it.

- It took two sittings, because the beginning is so damned boring.
- I didn't give a shit about the characters. All the time that was wasted "developing" them made me feel like I was watching a totally different movie. (Or two different movies, if the main Predator counts as a character.)
- The new alien, who I'm going to call Princess Chet, looks kind of cool on the cover, but is utterly ridiculous in the film. Those dreadlocks flopping everywhere -- honestly! Aliens should be rigid entities; floppiness does not become them. Her behavior is utterly nonsensical. Her reproductive method would make Dan O'Bannon's bowtie unravel in dismay, makes Prometheus' squid baby seem tasteful, and betrays Zoidberg-level cluelessness about human anatomy on the part of whoever came up with it. I could go on, but the fandom has ripped Princess Chet apart plenty as it is.
- Had to turn up the brightness +15 to make out anything in the majority of the scenes. Even then, the action is so poorly choreographed / shot that it didn't help all that much.
- Once the film gets going, it's mildly entertaining, but it really is just brainless, structureless, derivative dreck.

The movie reminded me of The Return of the Living Dead (the screenplay of which was by, incidentally, Alien's own Dan O'Bannon), but that film, with its high-octane campy factor, was way better. Maybe if AvP:R had been campy as fuck, it might have had some "so bad it's good" redeeming value. (Alternatively, it could have been based on a script that wasn't offal. Or simply never made at all.)

Hmm... How well would RotLD work if the zombies were replaced with xenomorphs?
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Postby Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:49 pm

Why is posting in bold nece- Never mind.

Bigfoot with Alice Cooper and The Amazing Spider-Man, meh and great respectively.
Haven't seen the first one.

:headscratch: Why would someone watch a sequel before seeing previous installments?
- I didn't give a shit about the characters. All the time that was wasted "developing" them made me feel like I was watching a totally different movie. (Or two different movies, if the main Predator counts as a character.)

His name was Wolf and yes, yautja are characters and to a lesser extent xenomorphs such as Kane Drone, Acheron Queen, Fiorana Runner, Ozimaderes Queen, Carcass, The Swimmer Twins, Newborn, Grid, Arctic Queen, and Chet.
- Had to turn up the brightness +15 to make out anything in the majority of the scenes. Even then, the action is so poorly choreographed / shot that it didn't help all that much.

A movie about creature fighting, with the title creatures being the stars, and humans are a factor? O_o It's monster fighting movies 101 (and monster movies in general), once the humans describe science points and/or monster origination you disregard them unless they become combatants. I use that all the time and it has yet to fail me.
Her behavior is utterly nonsensical.

Seemed sensical to me: Take out enemies and pass on genetics/spawn troops to conquer.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:23 pm

View Original PostTwin Drive Sigma Aquarion wrote:Why would someone watch a sequel before seeing previous installments?

Because (A) it was there, (B) I was in a brainless mood (hooray for heat waves), and (C) both of the movies have such fuck-awful reputations I didn't care what I might be "missing" from the first film.

The thing about whether the Predator was a "character" was rhetorical. I probably shouldn't have bothered pointing that out.

A movie about creature fighting, with the title creatures being the stars, and humans are a factor? O_o

Apparently they are a "factor". You did watch the movie, right?

If the movie is supposed to be about monsters beating the shit out of each other, and nothing else, then it shouldn't have shitty human melodrama at all. If it, for some reason, feels obligated to spend time focusing on human characters, then it should do it properly. You know, create characters with situations the viewers actually give a crap about and enjoy watching, as opposed to burdening the movie with formulaic, badly-acted dead weight.

(BTW, you quoted the wrong bit of text.)

Seemed sensical to me: Take out enemies and pass on genetics/spawn troops to conquer.

Well, I know better than to argue with you about something like this... :bigeyes:
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Postby Bomby von Bombsville » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:01 am

Re-watched Lau Kar-Leung's The 36th Chamber of Shaolin. Having not seen it for a few years, I'm glad it still holds up, as it's easily one of my all time favorite kung fu movies. I personally believe that Lau was the best director at Shaw Bros. studios, with the possible exception of King Hu, but Hu only made a couple of films at Shaw anyway. Chang Cheh made some good movies, too, but I've just never been as big of a fan of his.

View Original PostFazmotron wrote:I think I'll stick with the monthly posting of the films I've watched, unless I want to talk about something specifically I've just seen. So don't bother counting up all the separate film posts I make and just count the monthly posts, otherwise you'll get doubles in your analysis.

Cool. Thanks for the heads up fam.
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Postby MugwumpHasNoLiver » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:58 am

I went to an advanced screening of that new Oliver Stone flick last week, but the projector malfunctioned after waiting futilely for two hours, so the theatre staved off a riot by giving everybody a free ticket to see whatever. Ended up going to Wendy's with a few friends, then killing a half-hour in a sex shop, before going back to see Disney/Pixar's Brave in 3D.

First of all, don't arrive early to see the previews. The shit they're trying to hawk is the worst kind of brainless, quarter-assed kid friendly garbage. Second of all, the flick started at 10 in the evening and there was only one other person in there with us and she still had a screaming baby. It's practically like winning the lottery. Third, and perhaps the only relevant thing here, is that the film itself was so inoffensive that not even it's fairly capable charm could stop me from noticing it was just going down the checklist of maudlin Disney cliches. The short film before it, about the kid who shovels stars on the surface of the moon with his dad and grandpa, was about a hundred times more magical and emotionally provocative.
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Postby Merridian » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:40 pm

View Original PostMugwumpHasNoLiver wrote:First of all, don't arrive early to see the previews. The shit they're trying to hawk is the worst kind of brainless, quarter-assed kid friendly garbage.
goddamn isn't that the truth

I went to see Prometheus yesterday with a friend of mine, finally, and for some reason, the previews really shocked me into realizing just what kind of movies studios apparently think the public wants to see this season. The first was some maudlin drama about a Russian love affair that looked boring as hell, then there was another Stiller/Vaughn comedy about aliens, followed by a shoot-em-up brainless action film that I can't remember anything about, and then some story about a Denzel pilot that lands a downed airline and gets famous for it. Apparently, audiences are gearing up to watch films about plane crashes, the romantic death of romance in the face of austerity, Vince Vaughn, and something about guns, hatred, and carnage. Oh, and there was a trailer for Django Unchained, but I kind of want to see that. I guess that makes it 'guns, hatred, carnage, and vengeance," then.

And on that note, Prometheus was a pretentious and blundering parade of illiteracy and character death, but it looked so awesome that I really don't care about Scott's utter inability to dwell on apparently 'sophisticated' themes. All I wanted to see where space ships and aliens, and I got both. Mission accomplished.


...Where's Hal to rant and rave about how Chris Nolan isn't the hero that Hollywood wants, but the one she deserves?

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Postby Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:18 pm

The James Bond classic original Dr. No, 'nough said.
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Postby Bomby von Bombsville » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:23 am

View Original PostMerridian wrote:Where's Hal to rant and rave about how Chris Nolan isn't the hero that Hollywood wants, but the one she deserves?

Beating his fists against a picture of Amanda Winn Lee?

Anyway, I watched Return to the 36th Chamber today. Very different from the original. This one's a comedy. While most of the movie itself isn't really comparable to the original, it does win points for having some of the most creative and fun fight scenes of its time.
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Postby Xard » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:22 pm

View Original PostMerridian wrote:...Where's Hal to rant and rave about how Chris Nolan isn't the hero that Hollywood wants, but the one she deserves?


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Postby Bomby von Bombsville » Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:01 pm

Disciples of the 36th Chamber was a disappointment after the excellence of the previous 36th Chamber films. The focus switched to a new main character, who was the most annoying Fong Sai-Yuk in the history of movies dealing with Fong Sai-Yuk. The fight scenes were solid, as expected, but everything in between left much to be desired.

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There are martial arts films, and then there's Duel to the Death. This is the absolutely ridiculous directorial debut of Ching Siu-Tung, one of Tsui Hark's most important collaborators and my personal favorite action choreographer. There's one thing that Ching (and by extention, Tsui Hark as well, though he wasn't involved in this film) does better than anyone else: frantic editing during action sequences. Holy shit, the action sequences in this movie rock. Frantic flying swordsmen, exploding ninjas, talking decapitated heads, a dude with wooden legs... if only the fights were longer!

Still, this movie rocks. If you have a list of your favorite martial arts films and Duel to the Death isn't on it, your list is wrong.
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Postby MugwumpHasNoLiver » Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:54 pm

Less Than Zero, a stagnant and emotionally hollow adaptation of a classic Bret Easton Ellis novel. Since about 90% of the book was thrown out, they had to fill up an hour and a half with something else, and while I understand that being pragmatic in adapting a transgressive work of literature is sensible, I simply felt no connection to anything in the film they ultimately came up with.

The film focuses on Clay and his girlfriend Blair trying to help their strung-out drug addicted friend Julian get clean. Unfortunately, he owes his enabling dealer Rip 150k and since all of Julian's business ventures have failed and he's been effectively disowned by his wealthy father, Rip's way of getting the money back is by selling Julian as a prostitute. Blair's doing a lot of coke to take the edge off her stressful modelling career and if the drama wasn't thick enough, she screwed Julian while Clay was away at college. Clay never does a grain of coke. He's an utterly genetic bore. He heroically saves Julian from gay sex and gets Blair to quit and when Julian eventually dies from an overdose, the two of them talk about their dead friend and go off to college together. The film tries to hard to show casual drug use as the bane of pathetic self-destructive losers that it comes off as forced.

It might have worked if Clay was played by someone with a few more facial expressions, or the script was rewritten to make him more of a morally grey character. Robert Downey Jr. plays Julian, and it was nice to finally see him naked on-screen with another man after having been repeatedly cockteased by The Avengers--for God's sake, why did Tony Stark never make out with Captain America. They totally wanted to!--even if the scene in question was a two second coitus interruptus. I sort of dug his angrier, snarkier version of the character and the scenes where it was just him digging his own grave were actually pretty watchable. Sadly, they had to eventually end and cut back to boring Clay and boring Blair having their boring 80's romance.

In the book, Clay does nothing but snort coke, ignore his girlfriend, ask where Julian is, then get stood up, go home and do nothing for hours on end. According to him, he and Blair aren't even dating, but he apparently forgot to mention it to her. Not exactly cinematic, you follow? For about a hundred pages, nothing much happens but parties and sex and drugs and snuff films, but it's held together by the thread of Clay's loveless family life, his yearning for his lost youth, and his feelings of being utterly lost and directionless. Nothing comes across as shocking, because it's muted by Clay's utter apathy to the horror around him. Those disconnected vignettes painted a vivid portrait of a depressed and emotionally detached mind. Julian doesn't finally enter the picture until the final 50 pages, where Clay lends him money, tries to get it back and ends up watching Julian screw a client, then get beaten up by his pimp in a dance club men's room, while he does nothing to stop it. The scene is horrible, and it's easily the most powerful sequence in the whole book. (Some of the dialogue is recycled in the film, to much less resonant effect, because of the re-contextualization.) Before Clay leaves, Blair asks if he ever loved her and he says he didn't. She says she's happy to have that off her mind. Blair initially got with him out of pity, but she eventually grew to like that he didn't seem to care about anything in the slightest.

Hell, why bore you all with a plot synopsis. The fundamental differences between the book and film can be expressed in a single scene.

In the book, Blair and Clay are riding along a desert road and Blair runs over a coyote. She starts screaming, tries to hurry up and drive away, but it's stuck under the wheels, so she has to back up. She sits in the car and sobs while Clay gets out and stares at the animal for ten minutes while it dies. When the life finally drains from its eyes, he gets back in the car and neither ever talk about it again. It simply haunts them.

In the film, Clay is driving through a tunnel, Blair sees the coyote and calls it out to Clay. They stop, get out, and they apparently didn't hit it. There's nothing there. Clay then tells Blair that she looks like shit from the coke, and she runs off, but not before letting Clay get in a little moralizing speech about how she's ruining her life. He goes back to the car, sits in the drivers seat and doesn't drive away. There's some hesitation, but he opens her door and waits for her. She gets in and doesn't do anymore coke for the rest of the film.

Oh, and Clay's bisexuality? Gone.

Ellis creates emotional resonance out of nothing, while the film opts for a whole cloth approach that's completely uninspired. I went into the film knowing it'd essentially be a different story with nothing but the character names and setting intact, but I was hoping it would at least be an interesting different story. David Cronenberg took Naked Lunch, one of my favorite novels, a patchwork of asphyxiation, sodomy and rectal mucus and made it into one of my favorite films, a tragic portrait of a man who depends on creative expression to numb his unbearable grief and loneliness. This is little more than a generic 80's teen romance about why drugs are bad.
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Postby Merridian » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:57 am

^I purposely avoided the movie adaptation of that book because I'd been told that it wasn't so much an adaptation as a total butchering. Of the screen adaptations of Elis' novels, I've only actually watched American Psycho (the film that got me into his books to begin with). And I wasn't impressed enough with Rules of Attraction or, later, with The Informers to see if the film versions were any good.

View Original PostXard wrote:I guess you weren't around when he got perma-banned
I think I was. Bomby mentioned AWL, and I vaguely remember some kind of drama about that, but I probably didn't care enough to actually read any of it.

Man did he had the best incoherent rants, though.

Bomby wrote:Frantic flying swordsmen, exploding ninjas, talking decapitated heads, a dude with wooden legs... if only the fights were longer!

Still, this movie rocks. If you have a list of your favorite martial arts films and Duel to the Death isn't on it, your list is wrong.
I could agree with that statement. The prisoners suspended over a mysterious bottomless void in the temple's basement has always been one of the strangest things in the film that resonated with me. Well, that and characters dying standing up while facing their respective countries with dignity and honor.

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Postby Azathoth » Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:22 am

View Original PostMerridian wrote:Man did he had the best incoherent rants, though.


Yeah, which was why it was pretty disappointing that he got banned for something so lame. It wasn't even like some immense prepared rant that you could just tell he'd been saving up or anything, he was just like "you're a bitch lady, and you know what? fuck you"

I watched Stalker the other day. I've seen this several times and I still have yet to feel much of anything about its main characters - what appeals to me here is not the script but the world design. How much of the heavy lifting in this film is done by physical location? (hint: all of it) From the horrifyingly filthy, rotting outside world to that one creepy room full of bumps - it's no wonder somebody figured "hey, this would be a great setting for a free-roam FPS with RPG elements". Unfortunately, as broken a piece of shit as the game is, I still like it a lot more than the movie. Don't get me wrong, the movie's good, but its experience is kind of like going on a tour of some extremely beautiful natural phenomena with a couple of assholes who won't shut up.

(Then again, the game also kind of has this problem. I SED COME EEN, DONT JUST STEND THERE - GET OUT OF HERE STALKER! I SED COME EEN, DONT JUST STEND THERE - GET OUT OF HERE STALKER! I SED COME EEN, DONT JUST STEND THERE - GET OUT OF HERE STALKER! I SED COME EEN, DONT JUST STEND THERE - GET OUT OF HERE STALKER! I SED COME EEN, DONT JUST STEND THERE - GET OUT OF HERE STALKER! I SED COME EEN, DONT JUST STEND THERE - GET OUT OF HERE STALKER! I SED COME EEN, DONT JUST STEND THERE - GET OUT OF HERE STALKER! )
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