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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:37 am

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:In all but a handful of cases (Ghost in the Shell, maybe a couple more) doing it that way exposes you to all the adaptation decay involved. In particular I would expressly recommend reading Bokurano only after watching it.

So you would suggest watching Ghost in the Shell first? That's another series I've been keen on getting into. And by "adaptation decay" do you mean how the work was worsened by the change of medium?
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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:08 am

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:So you would suggest watching Ghost in the Shell first?
Read first -- see what the somewhat sketchy manga did, then see how the series ran with the set-up (and where bits of the manga actually leaked into it).

And by "adaptation decay" do you mean how the work was worsened by the change of medium?
Pretty much -- even unintentionally, the change in medium can lose the things that made the original work.

This isn't always the case -- Mushishi, for example, is a pretty much exact copy of the manga, with colour, sound and movement added -- but often there is abridgement, adjustment for broadcast, and other translation loss.
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Postby Fireball » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:54 pm

Gundam 00 season 1

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WE GUNDAMS NOW


Well, that was a solid yet ambitious ending. It's clear there is more to come but I can't help thinking, had they ended it here, I wouldn't be too dissatisfied. I really liked the effect it had on me when I suddenly started to realize "woah, so that's how the Federation came into being!". Also quite shocking about the Tomino-esque finish, I really didn't see so many deaths coming.

Overall I have to say, I was mostly bored until midway through I began to appreciate more and more what it tried to do. 00 never tries to be deep or moralising but neither does it emulate U.C. and get caught up in stupid Gundam clichés. It simply entertains on a line between sincere and superficial and that is a welcome change after the shitfest that was SEED. The semi-futuristic world, the conflicted pilots being aware about their hypocrisy by trying to end war with war, the blocky but realistic looking grunts etc., a lot of it grows on you because it treats the whole Gundam thing much more settled. Even Saji and Louise who felt so out of place at first become sympathetic once you understood their purpose as a mere civilian point of view.

So yeah, this season is a modern version of Gundam Wing, a good gateway for newcomers as well enjoyable for jaded fans that just want some solid mecha crunching.

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Postby Dr. Nick » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:12 pm

View Original PostFireball wrote:00 never tries to be deep or moralising but neither does it emulate U.C. and get caught up in stupid Gundam clichés.


And then a fuming Dentsu executive kicked open the door to Mizushima's office, screaming "Why aren't you emulating Zeta Gundam, you witless idiot?!?" and thus we got Season 2.

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Postby InstrumentalityOne » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:18 pm

Well, Chuunibyou Demo Koi Ga Shitai just ended.

[12:45:53 AM] Xard: k
[12:46:08 AM] Xard: welp it's chuuni tiem then, for lsat time
[12:46:09 AM] Xard: >
[12:49:55 AM] instrumentalityxin: okay
[12:49:57 AM] instrumentalityxin: lets go
[1:11:06 AM] Xard: ಠ_ಠ

oh wow

Kyoani

I expected all sorts of things

I did not expect GAINAX ENDING

hhaahahahah oh wow 10/10 well played

also dat Tamako Maaketto <3<3<3
[1:11:18 AM] instrumentalityxin: well
[1:11:22 AM] instrumentalityxin: this was fucking
[1:11:24 AM] instrumentalityxin: shit


Funny, well animated, cheesy copypasta dorama piano soundtrack, shitty plot/character pacing and generally pretty forgettable.
Kinda enjoyed it, conclusion was utter crap.

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5/10

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Postby Xard » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:37 pm

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:So you would suggest watching Ghost in the Shell first?


Stand Alone Complex, esp. 2nd season, is the greatest scifi series ever by most standards in my opinion with also the hands down best soundtrack to ever grace anime. There's no reason to not watch it.

Oshii's first film is also a classic for reason and should be viewed. Innocence is ok and looks gorgeous but is also pretentious and rambling as hell which still makes it recommendable but not a must see.


Manga is optional. Good but not Oshii GitS tier or SAC GitS tier.

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Isn't this the "pretty nice first season, why would you ruin that second season, HAHAHAHAHA OH WOW WOOP WOOP SPACE FLOWERS the movie" Gundam?

I'm worried how Fireball will take it from now on.

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Chuunibyou is over or how GAINAX STOLE THE CHRISTMAS ಠ_ಠ

ohwaitohwaitohwait, right right it's Kyoto Animation, not GAINAX. Sorry, Yamaga.


I guess it was about time kyoani deliver their first entry to the Gainax Ending subgenre because this really does fulfill all the criteria from vague waxing poetic to general offness, weirdness and plain ability to confuse.

Well, unlike Panty & Stocking finale which was all sorts of brilliant Gainaxness Chuuni's GE was plain bad Gainax.

There were parts and bits I liked and the theme and point they try to make with the show is a bit less emptyheaded than you'd imagine based on early episodes, sure. I also liked the "normal Deko". Also no conventional love drama bullshit, thank god.

Plus at least Shinka got to leave with grace in the episode's one through and through good scene:

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like his show! haw haw haw zing zing zing

Overall this whole episode was overamped, incoherent attempt that really screams "we have no idea what we are doing so here are the final tweests and flashbacks together with odd pointless character moments and humour that just add dead weight to episode as a whole - oh and don't worry everything is hasty, rushed and jumpy as hell and it all ends on flatulent first episode scene retake" among other things like ubermelodrama and corny SAYONARA scene.

aaaand then it goes GE in "out-of-placeness maximus philosophising" category too. Seriously what the fuck did I start watching EoTV:

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Seriously what the hell KyoAni?


All in all they dun goofed with the final three episodes. Up to episode 10 I really enjoyed this show. The usual KyoAni merits in production almost go as much without saying as with Ghibli (Hyouka, Chuuni and F/Z would probably be the three best animated series of year and even Zero's character animation is utter crap compared to KyoAni's magic) but I also liked the characters and especially humour. This was seriously fun romp and the drama wasn't bad either.

Then the pacing starts to go wack in episode 10 and episode 11 followed its lead while also amping up shoddy melodrama with shoddy weepy string music implied by genre. Neither were bad-bad though so I didn't doubt KyoAni in pulling it off tidily and nicely. Whooooops.

These last three episodes deal pretty devastating blow to series as a whole and confirm KyoAni's drought post-Keion continues. When oh when will a messiah arrive?

6/10


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OH YES FINALLY

ANIME SAVED THANK YOU BLESSED KYOANI THANK YOU BLESSED TEAM KEION FOR REDEEMING THE PRODIGAL SON STUDIO

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Postby Fireball » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:18 pm

Chuuniybou episode 12

That was kind of dull and forgettable. At least Hyouka pulled some heartstrings. I bet I won't even remember anything about this show in 2 months. Guess all my fucks were out after 3 episodes of overblown drama.

Verdict: Banishment this mediocrity



View Original PostDr. Nick wrote:And then a fuming Dentsu executive kicked open the door to Mizushima's office, screaming "Why aren't you emulating Zeta Gundam, you witless idiot?!?" and thus we got Season 2.


View Original PostXard wrote:Isn't this the "pretty nice first season, why would you ruin that second season, HAHAHAHAHA OH WOW WOOP WOOP SPACE FLOWERS the movie" Gundam?

I'm worried how Fireball will take it from now on.


Yeah, heard about that. Goddamnit.....

Checked out the first episodes of the second season and fuck, why couldn't Setsuna keep that Crossbone Exia a bit longer?

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Shit looked dope as hell.


also realizing now where TDSA got his name from leaves automatically a bad taste.
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Postby Final Messenger » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:23 pm

View Original PostFireball wrote:Checked out the first episodes of the second season and fuck, why couldn't Setsuna keep that Crossbone Exia a bit longer?

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Shit looked dope as hell.

Yeah Exia R1 was really cool I also wish it was around for a couple of episodes rather than being scraped in the first one.


but yeah 00 season 1 pretty nice over all my favorite AU. Season 2 was pretty meh but watchable. and the movie............... all i can say is at least the mecha porn was nice i guess.
edit: i also hated in season 2 how they
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Postby Dr. Nick » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:52 pm

View Original PostFireball wrote:also realizing now where TDSA got his name from leaves automatically a bad taste.


Actually, his "Twin Drive" reference probably comes from Godannar, but who knows.

Gundam 00's second season is basically the exact same fifty clown car pileup that was the second season of Code Geass, if that tells anybody anything.

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Postby CJD » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:45 am

View Original PostDr. Nick wrote:Gundam 00's second season is basically the exact same fifty clown car pileup that was the second season of Code Geass, if that tells anybody anything.


Not sure if this is a good or bad thing. Is it as fun as the second season of Geass?
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Postby Fireball » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:27 am

View Original PostDr. Nick wrote:Actually, his "Twin Drive" reference probably comes from Godannar, but who knows.

You right, I looked it up in the username thread.

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Never change TDSA :coffee:


Gundam 00's second season is basically the exact same fifty clown car pileup that was the second season of Code Geass, if that tells anybody anything.

So I heard as well. I have CG in my backlog for years now. Depending on how bad the second season of 00 is I might consider watching it now though.
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Postby Ornette » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:31 am

So I got around to watching the Arata Naru Sekai OVA that was mentioned here back in August. Premise is kind of wacky, but not any more (or to any detriment) than other anime. Since this is a 1-shot OVA without any kind of background, it's sort of like a late 80's OVA where you're thrown into the middle of what seems like an ongoing story but are giving no back-story and just try to keep up. Sometimes the character designs are kind of weird looking but generally rather plain.

Still not sure what's all going on. Seems time travel is prevalent, the girls were sent to the future, there was some imminent disaster in the past and it was going to happen relatively soon after they went to the future. No clue what happened at the end though. Still, was worth the 30 minutes, nothing great but was entertaining.

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Postby Xard » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:10 am

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Postby Merridian » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:37 pm

Finally have had peace and quiet to collect my thoughts on the most recent shows I finished:

Moyashimon

I can see why this show has a dedicated fanbase. For a show about a guy that can see microbes as anthropomorphic moe blobs (literally) structured and played as a light-hearted college comedy-drama, Moyashimon works solidly. The show’s segments on alcohol brewing would normally seem out of place if it wasn’t already meta-tinged by how they draw attention to the fact that the microbes are sentient organisms and look nothing like they do under a microscope—only to write it off as being some mystery of life. Needless to say, the microbes carry a lot of the humor in the show, and they do it pretty creatively.

While the design elements are a little plain, the animation is quite smooth. The characters each have their oddities about them, which of course creates the charm of the group chemistry. Some of the oddities are a little bizarre even for a show like this—Hasegawa’s S&M fetishism in her every day work attire, for instance, seems out of place but not unwelcome. Likewise, some of the traditions regarding the agricultural university’s festivals are also pretty odd—such as a days-long event promoting self-sufficiency that simultaneously includes rules that remain ambiguous until long after the event has commenced. So although it’s a show about a college kid that can see microbes, it’s more about a quirky group of students getting involved with the oddities of campus life and brewing alcohol in the process.

Overall, a fun and entertaining ride characterizing another embodiment of the idea that Japan can make anything moe.

8/10

Moyashimon Returns

More of the same, except this time with altered character design. While jarring at first, I warmed up to the shift in faces—mainly because the girls ended up cuter and the guys stayed basically the same (loli goth trap being exception for the guys) .

The narrative diverges a little bit with a greater focus on the TA Hasegawa, and following the autumn harvest festival, the story ends up taking place predominantly in France. The shift in focus from wacky college antics to specific character development is handled pretty well, since despite handling some reasonably heavy themes involving love and trust, the narrative never takes the full plunge into romance—probably for the better. It remains mostly light-hearted and only flirts mildly with the audience’s receptiveness toward seeing the characters actually hook up. The plot’s a little out of nowhere compared to the first season, but I don’t think that works to the series’ detriment.

8/10

Chuunibyou

This show sucks. Don’t watch it.

5/10 for animation and conning me into watching the whole thing

Spending whole show getting into characters only to vamp up drama in worst way possible and end with the cheesiest voice-over narration I've heard in recent years is NOT how you go about executing a series. Brilliant job crashing and burning.

To run with Xard's GAINAX parallel, the only reason this isn't as terrible as Abenobashi's ending is because this series wasn't as good as Abenobashi to begin with.

Hidamari Sketch 1st Season

Things Akiyuki Shinbo does well:
-comedy
-churn out watchable low-budget shows
-convince people to give him money
-fanservice
-lolis
-drugs

Things Akiyuki Shinbo does poorly:
-manage a budget
-not spend money on drugs
- subtlety
-unpredictable or creative use of montage

7/10

Made a good impression; I’ll continue with the series.

On to finish Joshiraku and a few others!

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Postby Ornette » Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:22 pm

Just when things seemed like it was turning into a convoluted mess, Blast of Tempest just set its shit up to hit fans. Does this show only have 13 episodes? If so, they could really end this series well with just one more episode.

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Postby A.T. Fish » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:58 pm

Up to episode 25 in Death Note, not liking it much so far, there are some clever things here and there that make you go "ha, cool", but there are also too many moments where the character's deductive abilities are blown way out of proportion, which weakens it's credibility. The shift towards a more comedic approach that happens around episode 15 is also a problem, it feels very unnatural.

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Postby Alastor » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:16 pm

Been watching Demonbane and Wings of Rean lately.

Dear God, they are just... terrible. Which is a shame, since what I've read of the Demonbane VN is excellent and the original Dunbine is a pretty solid watch. Feels like they got half of the planned episode counts.

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Never change TDSA :coffee:

To be fair, I don't think TDSA liked Godannar for the T&A. ...and if he did, likely not the fleshy T&A. Sadly, I don't have any of the relevant images to that in my /m/ folder, so use your imagination for a FTFY.

Speaking of TDSA, been in contact with him as of late, and the guy apparently has a 'rant-style anime reviews I could share with cruddy classics including Kampfer and Arjuna' (his own words) if anyone is interested.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:20 pm

View Original PostAlastor wrote:rant-style anime reviews I could share with cruddy classics including Kampfer and Arjuna'.
If he's doing that sort of thing in his own inimitable style, then they should be amusing.
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Postby Fireball » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:04 pm

View Original PostMerridian wrote:Made a good impression; I’ll continue with the series.

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View Original PostAlastor wrote:To be fair, I don't think TDSA liked Godannar for the T&A. ...and if he did, likely not the fleshy T&A. Sadly, I don't have any of the relevant images to that in my /m/ folder, so use your imagination for a FTFY.

I'm willing to believe that but his taste in exploitation is well known and the gif I posted fits the bill more than enough.


Speaking of TDSA, been in contact with him as of late, and the guy apparently has a 'rant-style anime reviews I could share with cruddy classics including Kampfer and Arjuna' (his own words) if anyone is interested.

No thanks.
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Postby Merridian » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:30 pm

View Original PostAlastor wrote:TDSA ... 'rant-style anime reviews ... Arjuna'
This sounds promising.


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