[MANGA] Evangelion Volume 12

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Postby Grand Duke of Yashima » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:38 pm

Hey, I was able to get v12 at my local manga store yesterday. Did anyone else see it out yet?
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:47 pm

I don't understand release dates. Amazon, Borders, and Barnes & Noble all say February 15th. Carl Horn says it's a March title, but it will be in certain direct-market stores (Comic Shops) "a little earlier than that". So the question is, does two weeks before the online release date count as a little earlier than March or February 15th?

TLDR: I don't understand this shit.

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Postby Grand Duke of Yashima » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:54 pm

The bonus materials are short articles from Tiffany Grant and Yuko Miyamura, about Asuka and about each other.
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Postby C.A.P. » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:01 pm

Mind posting experts from it, or at least type 'em up? I'm interested if they say anything new or interesting regarding Asuka and themselves.
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Postby Grand Duke of Yashima » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:17 pm

I won't copy it word for word, but basically both seiyuu talk about how they've come to embrace their character over time. They both first met each other at a convention and that had a lasting impact, both in that they've become good friends, and also that each has learned to accept their "Inner Asuka" (as Grant puts it), despite initial misgivings.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:24 pm

When did Grant and Miyamura write the articles? Does it have any mention of Asuka Shikinami in 2.22 (or differences of Soryu versus Shikinami, for instance, Miyamura was told to play Shikinami as a different character from Soryu), or is it only talking about Soryu?

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Postby Grand Duke of Yashima » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:36 pm

It looks like they were very recently written, as both articles reference Rebuild. Yuko says that by comparison Asuka Shikinami is happier and less complex than Asuka Soryu and she's looking forward to working with the character more.

Tiffany also has an interesting comment about Asuka, saying her perspective of the character was changed by watching EoE, as she felt after seeing that people were much more sympathetic to the character than in the original series.

I can just type up the articles for you to read. Is that cool?
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:44 pm

Whether or not you want to copy the articles is up to you, but maybe it's good to give some people incentive to buy the book themselves. :wink:

Oh, Volume 12 of the manga ends with Eva-01 breaking free from the bakelite, yes? (Or would that be the start of the next volume?) I ask because I might nab Volume 12 despite only owning Vol 1 (Action Edition) by Viz and Japanese Volume 8.
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Postby Grand Duke of Yashima » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:50 pm

Yes, you are correct, the last scene is EVA-01 breaking free of the bakelite.

I won't type up the articles in the back, but I do think they're insightful as to how voice actors look at their work. Yukomi refers to Asuka as her daughter, and now that she has her own real-life daughter she finds her feelings for both are similar. I seem to remember in an interview with Megumi Hayashibara that she also would refer to her characters as her children.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:15 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:When did Grant and Miyamura write the articles?

Carl told me about it a little while back when I asked about the bonus materials. He told me that these comments from Miyamura and Grant were composed recently, specifically for this release.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:29 pm

Ooh, very cool.

Man, Carl's so awesome to have connections like that. :smirk:
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:38 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:Ooh, very cool.

Man, Carl's so awesome to have connections like that. :smirk:

And that makes us awesome by proxy.
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Postby Killer Bee » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:10 pm

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:I don't understand release dates. Amazon, Borders, and Barnes & Noble all say February 15th. Carl Horn says it's a March title, but it will be in certain direct-market stores (Comic Shops) "a little earlier than that". So the question is, does two weeks before the online release date count as a little earlier than March or February 15th?

TLDR: I don't understand this shit.

Yeah, I found Campus Apocalypse vol. 2 at Books-A-Million about a month before the official release date, and they're usually pretty bad about getting manga on time. I don't understand it either.

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Postby BiQ » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:06 am

I just noticed something interesting, when I wondered about whether or not stage 84 (the one ending in Eva-01 breaking out of bakelite) is included in volume 12... The stage numbers in volumes are running behind the Young Ace scans' stage numbers by one.

Check this out:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_chapters[/url]

You'll see that stage 83 is titled "Concord (Heart and Heart, Echoing Together)". Now, open that stage 84 scan I'm sure you have floating around somewhere in your hd (or open your browser and head to some manga-reading website) and check the title of stage 84... yeah.

Now, I also happened to have YA stage 77: "The Final Enemy" on my hd, and lo & behold, it is included in my finnish edition vol 11 as stage 76. As it seems to be in Japanese volume 12 according to wikipedia.

Anyone knows which stage of YA they decided to skip in tankoubons?

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:38 am

I think Sadamoto got his Stage numbering screwed up (it wouldn't surprise me considering he badly messed up the Angel order too), but don't quote me on that.
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Postby InstrumentalityOne » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:06 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:I think Sadamoto got his Stage numbering screwed up (it wouldn't surprise me considering he badly messed up the Angel order too), but don't quote me on that.


All he did was leaving out some Angels, not screwing up the order.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:28 pm

[url]http://wiki.evageeks.org/Angels#cite_note-3[/url] wrote:↑ Sadamoto skips from 7th Angel (Israfel) to 8th Angel (Bardiel), despite having the Evas sortie against Sahaquiel in between.


There's also one Angel that's pretty much 7.5: http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?p=352700#352700

By skipping Angels, he did screw up the order, which...he should really pay more attention to that as the manga author. (He also refers to Kaworu as 12th who should be 13th or some such thing.)
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Just reporting in that my local Barnes and Noble does not have Volume 12 in yet, but they have some Shinji Ikari Raising Project volumes like usual (they did have Campus Apocalypse volume 1 for awhile too). I guess it really does depend which places will have Sadamoto vol 12 early versus not.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:51 pm

Got my copy today:

http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?p=428808#428808
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Postby soul.assassin » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:59 pm

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:Got my copy today:

http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?p=428808#428808


Reading that methinks of playing that Smashing Pumpkin song: The End Is the Beginning Is the End.

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Postby Eva 02 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:31 pm

Mine was well read 30 mins after the postman dropped it off via Amazon.com.

Sadamoto really liked to change up EoE for cheap thrills, methinks.

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I mean, when you find out the one that saves Shinji from the JSSDF is Gendou... woah.... And then he busts out with an AT-field... WOAH.... I also think the Shinji/Misato scene was played down, it used to be so powerful it could make me tear up, granted enough alcohol was in my system to weaken the emotional calluses.


And, is it just me or did it seem like he rushed through it? He's like, "Look, I know it took multiple years to complete this but goddamn... Can't I get a break?" It seems like he just watched EoE and jammed it out real quick, almost putting off the parts that he's going to have to think long & hard about adapting. I.E. the second half of EoE.

I was a little disappointed, but all that waiting and excitement when Amazon emailed me that I could preorder it last month; I still got giddy while reading it.
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