EVA-05...mechanical or biomechanical??

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Postby Assasinate » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:00 am

when i watched 2.0... i noticed to this unit that it has so many TUBES in its cockpit area... and the pilot's gear is quite OLD SCHOOL (using helmet that what Shinji and others used to)

and if you look at it.... its much like its the 1st evangelion than the other....
( due to its mechanical attributes)

but much better than Jet -Alone unit
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Postby Sachi » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:15 am

View Original PostAssasinate wrote:when i watched 2.0... i noticed to this unit that it has so many TUBES in its cockpit area... and the pilot's gear is quite OLD SCHOOL (using helmet that what Shinji and others used to)

and if you look at it.... its much like its the 1st evangelion than the other....
( due to its mechanical attributes)

Wait, what? This made absolutely no sense to me. The only time Shinji ever wears a helmet is during Operation Yashima, and the helmet was to only help with his aiming.

So, if you look at Unit-05 ... it's much like all the Evangelions, except completely not due to the mechanical lower half.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make or clarify, but there's probably a thread about Unit-05 somewhere in here.
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Postby Jinroh » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:16 am

It's just an evangelion with mechanical legs and arms.

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Postby Assasinate » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:02 am

View Original PostSachi wrote:Wait, what? This made absolutely no sense to me. The only time Shinji ever wears a helmet is during Operation Yashima, and the helmet was to only help with his aiming.

So, if you look at Unit-05 ... it's much like all the Evangelions, except completely not due to the mechanical lower half.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make or clarify, but there's probably a thread about Unit-05 somewhere in here.


yeah i know that scene... but the point is.... this unit quite very different to others... from the way it moves and to fight...

unlike others that they can fight in any background...EVA-05 seems can only fight within underground tunnels, and it also has no AT-FIELD at all (there's a scene where the angel its engaged just passed thru by passing above it)
and what i mean the FIRST EVANGELION is I think it was the first to be IDEALIZED and BLUE PRINTED, but somehow... they discovered that CYBORGS is much effective than NERVES OF STEEL...so they created it late...or they created it imperfect and incomplete.. just like the incomplete positron beam cannon

by the way... im not protesting that they put that kind of unit in the movie...
due to the changes made to rebuild... i only need to clarify something so i can understand the movie clearly
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:14 am

It definitely does come off as being considerably more mechanical than the other Evas. But there also doesn't appear to be anything to explicitly say one way or another whether it is funny mechanical, however I would assume it is bio-mechanical as that's more or less a requisite for being an Evangelion.

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Postby InstrumentalityOne » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:42 am

But aren´t Evas supposed to be of humanoid shape?

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:13 am

View Original PostInstrumentalityOne wrote:But aren´t Evas supposed to be of humanoid shape?

It's still recognizably humanoid.

I'm going to start referring to Unit-05 as the "Armored Core" Evangelion.

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Postby Rodeo » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:31 am

It's basically an Eva that's had all of it's limbs amputated and replaced with cyborg parts.

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Postby jojojoker » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:45 am

View Original PostAssasinate wrote:this unit quite
unlike others that they can fight in any background...EVA-05 seems can only fight within underground tunnels, and it also has no AT-FIELD at all (there's a scene where the angel its engaged just passed thru by passing above it)

well presumably it was constructed to protect the Acheron(?) base which is primarily tunnels which would be too small to fit the conventional EVA. I think its design was to correspond with its designated location. Also it was deemed a provisional type EVA so perhaps nerv or ipea decided to experiment with failed EVA which couldn't grow legs in its development stage. Thus it's kind of salvaging the top half and compromising with mechanical legs. This is all just a wild stab in the dark so take it with a grain of salt. Also I recall Mari shouting "deploying field" when approaching the angel so I believe EVA-5 did have an AT field albeit a weak one. Or perhaps Mari wasn't skilled enough to deploy a more resistant field since it was her first time as a pilot.
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Postby Marduk » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:55 am

Eva-05 is the MP-Eva that gets its legs chopped off... *stabbed, shot, and hung to rot where everyone can see*
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Postby AuraTwilight » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:13 pm

It's biomechanical, else it wouldn't be an Evangelion.
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Postby Holy Diver » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:28 pm

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:It's still recognizably humanoid.

I'm going to start referring to Unit-05 as the "Armored Core" Evangelion.


Dem quad-legs.

That reminds me of an Eva-05 AC design I built in For Answer. It looked pretty bad-ass, but its probably the most ineffective AC ever built.
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Postby Azathoth » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:42 pm

View Original PostAuraTwilight wrote:It's biomechanical, else it wouldn't be an Evangelion.


This. All the Evas are biomechanical to some extent. Who knows why they decided to take the limbs off Unit 05 - I have a sneaking suspicion that it was solely make a different-looking action figure, but it would pleasantly surprise me if Q decided to make that important in some way.

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View Original PostMarduk wrote:Eva-05 is the MP-Eva that gets its legs chopped off...


As trollarious as that would be, no, that's Unit 12. Unit 05 is the one Asuka wall-slams and then punches through while screaming KORE DE LETZTER (which has to be one of my favorite mixed-language battle cries ever).
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Postby Assasinate » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:00 pm

View Original Postjojojoker wrote:well presumably it was constructed to protect the Acheron(?) base which is primarily tunnels which would be too small to fit the conventional EVA. I think its design was to correspond with its designated location. Also it was deemed a provisional type EVA so perhaps nerv or ipea decided to experiment with failed EVA which couldn't grow legs in its development stage. Thus it's kind of salvaging the top half and compromising with mechanical legs. .


well apparently... all of their mechanical stuff are such a BIG FAILURE againts the angels...but i think thru the effort of this model by just doing an EMO stuff (suicide) well a little bit of success.. againts an nameless angel thats only barely in BONES...

also the positron gun is quite powerful despite that it has a very BIG FEEDBACK ( eating almost the whole nation's ELECTRICITY by using it...)
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Postby KnightmareX13 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:40 am

View Original PostAssasinate wrote:also the positron gun is quite powerful despite that it has a very BIG FEEDBACK ( eating almost the whole nation's ELECTRICITY by using it...)

Exactly what does a postitron gun have to do with Eva unit 05? 05 never used one.
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Postby Zoop » Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:23 am

View Original PostAssasinate wrote:all of their mechanical stuff are such a BIG FAILURE againts the angels...but i think thru the effort of this model by just doing an EMO stuff (suicide) well a little bit of success.. againts an nameless angel thats only barely in BONES...


Eva-05 destroyed the angel by cracking the angel's core, not suicide, so it's mechanical parts were quite succesfull in this case.

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Postby Assasinate » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:54 am

View Original PostKnightmareX13 wrote:Exactly what does a postitron gun have to do with Eva unit 05? 05 never used one.


apparently.. they look like the same age if you compare them mechanically... that's why i also put that cannon.. but dont worry its not belong in the discussion...

ow by the way... is this unit-05 only have one weapon??? i noticed that it's only weapon is its spear on the left arm??(despite that its just only have some mechanical arms unlike to other EVA's)
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Postby jojojoker » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:17 am

View Original PostAssasinate wrote:ow by the way... is this unit-05 only have one weapon??? i noticed that it's only weapon is its spear on the left arm??(despite that its just only have some mechanical arms unlike to other EVA's)

I'm guessing because it's a provisional type EVA and that it's in a secluded base, there weren't many weapons developed for it yet. Look at its arms and hands, it wouldn't even be able to hold a rifle unless it was customised for its 'claw' left arm. Also, I think the EVA self-destructed as a means to ensure that the Angel would definitely die in case the core didn't crack. Then again, we do hear Kaji and Mari talking about making the scene look like an "accident" so it may be a plot device.This is pretty much all we can get out of it so far until Q comes out.
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Postby InstrumentalityOne » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:21 am

View Original PostThe Eva Monkey wrote:I'm going to start referring to Unit-05 as the "Armored Core" Evangelion.

This thought crossed my mind too, strangely enough.

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