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by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:19 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: LCL and instrumentality: a 'humans only' club?
Replies: 16
Views: 5744

In ep21' the scientists' voices describe the Door of Gaf opening It's Guf, and there are two Doors (one on each palm). Some time after making that post, I read about the production notes describing them in GNR's hands. it seems to have been started by using the Lance to try ...
by Monk Ed
Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:02 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: LCL and instrumentality: a 'humans only' club?
Replies: 16
Views: 5744

Second Impact appears almost identical to Third Impact, minus the "medium of souls" fusing souls into one, and that Katsuragi-tachi managed to decrease the area of effect of the AATF. In ep21' the scientists' voices describe the Door of Gaf opening, Adam spreading its wings, headin...
by Monk Ed
Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:43 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: The Great Episode 24' Plot Hole / Fanwank Thread
Replies: 532
Views: 135419

With regard to the "sample" bit, I think people are just getting caught up in semantics. The show seems to make it pretty clear that the embryo IS, in effect, Adam, or at least her body, although it's just a small remnant of what it once was. "Sample" is a bit of a strange w...
by Monk Ed
Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:17 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: The Great Episode 24' Plot Hole / Fanwank Thread
Replies: 532
Views: 135419

It would appear Lilith either already had her own S2, or didn't need one because Gendo perhaps intended to use the S2 in Eva-01. Rather, the embryo's role seems to have something to do with the line, "The forbidden joining of Adam and Lilith". Both attempts at 3I -- Gendo's and...
by Monk Ed
Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:36 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: The Great Episode 24' Plot Hole / Fanwank Thread
Replies: 532
Views: 135419

Would the Angels mistake us for Adam? If you say no then there is no reason they should mistake Lilith for Adam since she is the same species as us. There are lots of things Lilith and Adam have in common that they don't have in common with their own children: they're both Sources of Life, ...
by Monk Ed
Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:58 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: The Great Episode 24' Plot Hole / Fanwank Thread
Replies: 532
Views: 135419

Gaghiel had no problems sensing the embyro so why didn't Kaworu? A distracting noise isn't much good when it's not around. Gaghiel found the sample out at sea, far from Lilith. But once the sample arrives at NERV we can reasonably assume it never leaves the city again. As for the origin...
by Monk Ed
Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:56 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Series Title(s) Discussion (Shin Seiki/Neon Genesis)
Replies: 67
Views: 19581

I interpreted neon genesis as meaning "new birth", and that it referred to Unit 01, which eventually becomes the Evangelion that rebirths the world when Shinji rejects Complementation. But ultimately I don't think it's meant to have any real concrete meaning. It's one of those ...
by Monk Ed
Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:20 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: The Great Episode 24' Plot Hole / Fanwank Thread
Replies: 532
Views: 135419

It still doesn't answer why Kaworu couldn't tell the difference between the Adam embryo and Lilith's body. Even as far back as the very first time I saw ep24, my perception was that Lilith was always meant to serve as an Angel-decoy. The reason is because of how it was revealed to us th...
by Monk Ed
Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:32 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: The Great Episode 24' Plot Hole / Fanwank Thread
Replies: 532
Views: 135419

Pretty good post Monk Ed. Man, this thread brings back some memories. I often thought that the whole "Adam in Gendo" could've just been Seele's way of warning Kaworu, but Kaworu still thinking that the rest of Adam was in TD. Remember that the embryo is referred to as a "samp...
by Monk Ed
Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:58 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: The Great Episode 24' Plot Hole / Fanwank Thread
Replies: 532
Views: 135419

Sorry to bump an old topic but this is something I've been trying to piece together myself recently. What SEELE says is "saitei-sareta nikutai" for "resurrected body". I'm not an expert in this field, but "nikutai" also means "flesh", which I take to m...

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