Ok, they create a new narrative It fails They are different debates. Its sin is not being different : It's not working RIGHT. And I keep my word that with the NGE background it doesn´t work, NTE can't stand by itself. And if you are depending on the previous lore to work....well, deal with the conse...

1. No, not irrelevant 2. 99% of us haven't watched the film, so we better close the post, don't we? 1. It's irrelevant because you're essentially comparing apples to oranges. There is no sustained message about escapism in Rebuild as far as I can tell, it's much more straightforwardly a coming-of-a...

The movie format was Anno's choice, not ours. If ti havent worked in an artistic way (but hey, POWERFUL VISUALS), it's his fault. Most of the criticism about how it "hasn't worked" is based on a comparison to the television series and End of Evangelion. NTE deserves critique based on its ...

I'm seeing a lot of comparing of Shin Eva to EoE, and quite frankly I don't think it's a warranted comparison. EoE had an entire 24 episodes of television building up to it, with all the baggage that came along. It was fundamentally telling a different story, with a different buildup, and a necessa...

chee#915983 wrote:
1. pretty much irrelevant to what was said, but allllllllrighty
2. didja actually watch the film, my dude

1. No, not irrelevant
2. 99% of us haven't watched the film, so we better close the post, don't we?

This whole thread comes from an inherently bad faith approach; that Shin can and will never live up to NGE. Since I disagree on that very premise (and ticket sales seem to agree on that!), I am going to say that no, Shin will do the opposite and elevate the franchise. Well, outside of mired-in-the-...

ChaddyManPrime#915966 wrote:Does Mari qualify as a manic pixie dream girl? Does she listen to the smiths?

The glasses say YES

The reset without consequences hurts the message (or rather, something I got from EoE that might be completely off the mark with what Anno was actually trying to do with NTE), more than our MC ending with a underdeveloped character at the end. The latter is also a very toxic message. In real life e...

Felipe, please. Stop making the entire artistic validity of Shin and NTE as a whole about shipping. It's tiresome. It was Anno's choice to determine that a girl fallen from the sky changes your life, not ours. And is a choice that breaks the narrative of four films, just for the sake of being meta....

Like, imagine Shin was, in fact, EoE. Imagine we'd get every last line of dialogue, a couple of camrips showing some portions of the film that wouldn't amount to more than 10 minutes. We are in pretty much the same situation here. And me saying that will probably be met with some cries of "But...

Thesufferingpumpkin#915674 wrote:It may seem far fetched but does anyone think they will go for best animated feature film?

The oscars seems to be more diverse than ever now

No

If Mari's role in NTE is bad, unearned, without a working thematic relevancy or meaning, then it's a problem of NTE, but also, by necessity, of Shin, since Mari is a part of Shin and her role there is the most "blasphemous" out of all her roles in the other three films. If you believe Mar...

It's also not like I'm not wondering about certain story decisions, such as the ending and Mari's role, but I personally have enough faith in Anno to wait for the film before immediately denouncing those decisions-and the fact the few forum members here who have seen the film have by and large been...

Not much time ago I said that Kaworu's death in Q felt ridiculous. Somebody, in a good way, told me to wait until de final movie release. Well, it seems it's still pretty ridiculous. Why do you think his death in Q is ridiculous? In 3.0+1.0, it is mentioned that a sacrifice is necessary to stop an ...

I get your point, and I believe we must see the full movie to get a true judgment but : 1) We`re living in 2021, not in 1997. We have even talked with people that has seen the movie, we have inmediate reviews, we have the full dialogue. And still, the Mari thing is not a 2021 debate. She has been a ...

Yeah, you should really tone it down, Jaeger. You say you're a mature adult, but you sure don't act like it. Because the Poochie thing? It's just a joke, like in any other forum My other arguments are perfectly valid and no confrontional. They aren't against nobody (people is behaving fine), just r...

Mari has not nearly enough development, and never forms a connection with Shinji in the scenes they have together (10 minutes or so in the entire tetralogy, including the ending). About as much time as OG Kaworu got. Worst example ever. The point of kawou was being the last angel (so 1 episode) and...

For what it’s worth, when Kaworu tells Shinji they’ve met before during instrumentality, there is a shot of the headless angel statue (the one that resembles the mass production evas from EoE) where they first met by the shore in NGE. And there’s a shot with Shinji facing Asuka (or was it Rei?) aga...

Came here to read the general outline and info of the movie. Didn't expect a bunch of whining users. Might be better to move some of the post to a separate thread to nitpick every known issues with the movie. Artist should be allowed to be criticized yes. I myself have issues reading the leaks as w...

Mari has not nearly enough development, and never forms a connection with Shinji in the scenes they have together (10 minutes or so in the entire tetralogy, including the ending). About as much time as OG Kaworu got. Worst example ever. The point of kawou was being the last angel (so 1 episode) and...