I don't think it's actually possible to discuss a theory like this with someone who can't understand why Komm Süsser Tod is clearly, as plainly as anything in EVA, narrated by Asuka
It's like trying to go over the plans to build a dam with somebody who's arguing with you that water isn't wet
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- Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:45 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
- Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:12 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Re: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
Songs don’t have to be taken literally. It just feels stupid to try to analyze them in detail, in my opinion. Even more in this case, having been made by a pop singer, whose knowledge of Evangelion is dubtious (althout she claims that she's a fan of the series) and whose main job is to create "...
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:52 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Re: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
The lyrics fits Rei III and her double godly/human more than Asuka, and Thanatos is the OST for Rei's sacrifice, that's why I think it's about Rei. I didn't know Thanatos plays during that scene. It could be Rei then. "That I may not be / What I think I am" does sound like Rei realizing h...
- Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:13 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Re: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
I interpreted Beautiful World as something mostly from Rei's prospective, much like Thanatos: If I can't be yours I don't know whether or not Thanatos involves Shinji, but I'm pretty certain it does involve Asuka and not Rei. Currently I think Thanatos is between Asuka and her mother, because of th...
- Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:33 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Re: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
How do we know for sure that this is Soryu we're talking about here? Sure it's not just some other person expressing her emotion through songs? There's many different fragments of evidence at this point, none of which can be restated quickly. It would also take up a lot of space. Check my previous ...
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:42 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Re: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
There's two good quality translations of Beautiful World here https://wiki.evageeks.org/Beautiful_World#English_Translation Something struck me about the lyrics. (...) To follow up on this post, I looked at the lyrics of Beautiful World some more. I'll omit lines that have already been commented on...
- Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:50 pm
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Yui-Lilith Soul Gestalt, 'Rei'; and Eva-01's Souls
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3056
Re: Yui-Lilith Soul Gestalt, 'Rei'; and Eva-01's Souls
Nice one I mostly didnt knew Lilith and Adam was combined inside eva 01 in rebuild, that's insane I thought most evas had souls of their pilot's mother (like Asuka's mom is inside eva 02 and so on for toji etc ) If it's mostly eva 01 only why bother having other pilots who lost their mother as well...
- Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:20 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Re: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
I had another thought. There is precedent for Asuka and Shinji talking to/about each other through songs. That's definitely the case with both the used & unused scripts for "Everything You've Ever Dreamed" . See this image for more info on that. Thanatos might also be Asuka and Shinji ...
- Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:53 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Re: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
There's two good quality translations of Beautiful World here https://wiki.evageeks.org/Beautiful_World#English_Translation Something struck me about the lyrics. If I can't meet you before my world ends, Please let me sleep next to you. Any place will do https://i.imgur.com/OvimD2W.png Fitting that ...
- Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:19 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
- Replies: 31
- Views: 17880
Sakura Nagashi Theory - Rebuild & A Missing Character
EDIT: Here's the completed theory in image form http://i.pi.gy/WmN48.jpg backup on a larger image host that compresses more: https://i.imgur.com/lKkNwNG.jpg vector which should be more readable on mobile phones or smaller monitors (kindly made by SandroHc): https://a.pomf.space/bksywkdgyrzi.svg --- ...
- Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:33 pm
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
- Replies: 230
- Views: 65669
Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
It boggles my mind that anyone denies the clear romantic thing going on between these two in both NGE and rebuild
The sheer mental gymnastics
The sheer mental gymnastics
- Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:21 pm
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: "I need you" - Who Said It to Who
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6117
Re: "I need you" - Who Said It to Who
I skimmed your post and didn't see anything disputing the facts of what I said, just statements that you personally dislike it followed by your own ideas about the phrase Do you have any explanation for why, in both instances of the phrase's appearance, it comes right before a scenario directly invo...
- Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:39 pm
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: "I need you" - Who Said It to Who
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6117
"I need you" - Who Said It to Who
I think I figured out who says this line to who, conclusively. In one of the earlier scripts for EoE the "I need you" title screen was placed directly before a live-action sequence depicting a world where Shinji didn't exist and Asuka had hooked up with Touji. Some people have used this as...
- Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:13 am
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: What is the significance of characters strangling each other?
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8629
Re: What is the significance of characters strangling each other?
Recently I've been thinking that Shinji strangling Asuka is the act which actually signified global instrumentality's beginning. If you rewatch the scene with that in mind, the timing of 'Kom Susser Tod' is pretty conspicuous. I don't mean that the strangling was some part of the instrumentality rit...
- Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:22 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Rebuild is shallow [split]
- Replies: 93
- Views: 24747
Re: Rebuild is shallow tangent
FreakyFilmFan4ever#868724 wrote:American audiences tend to focus more on the "waifu" characters of Eva than Japanese audiences would be
This is incorrect, as was already explained in an earlier post
- Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:45 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Rebuild is shallow [split]
- Replies: 93
- Views: 24747
Re: Rebuild is shallow tangent
:rolleyes: This is why threads like this are never a good idea. They basically exist for frothing-at-the-mouth keyboard pounding. I didn't make this thread, I commented the first post as a reply to a thread which was something like "what were your thoughts on Rebuild" and somebody moved i...
- Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:20 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Rebuild is shallow [split]
- Replies: 93
- Views: 24747
Re: Rebuild is shallow tangent
Overall, most Western audiences seem to enjoy focusing on the attractive female characters (especially the pilots) over Shinji, the actual main character to the show. It's cute that you think this is an exclusively western thing. Go on 2ch's eva board and count the number of threads about Shinji vs...
- Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:52 am
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Love in evangelion
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5803
Re: Love in evangelion
To get a kiss may or may not have been her intention by falling asleep next to him; but she was asleep, this we can tell by the "momma" line and her tears' that interrupted Shinji kissing her. Recall that she also said that she was just testing him when she supposedly "revealed"...
- Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:23 am
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: C.T.1290 versus Asuka. Examining the good and bad.
- Replies: 402
- Views: 85056
Re: C.T.1290 versus Asuka. Examining the good and bad.
Mr. Tines#868332 wrote:the last we heard of her was "If I have to be with you I'd rather die."
Her instrumentality scenes were full of denial.
Her final act was to respawn at his side and caress his face. These are not the actions of somebody who doesn't want to be with him.
- Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:20 am
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Animals and vegetables in Instrumentality?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 11480
Re: Animals and vegetables in Instrumentality?
We call it 'human instrumentality' because there's no other name for it, but that was simply the name for what SEELE wanted to bring about. It isn't actually what happened. 'Human instrumentality' stopped being the gameplan as soon as Rei took Lilith's body and gained control over the proceedings. I...