Yeah, see. This is not something I've bought as even remotely beliavable after early chapters. I don't even think we're supposed to, Light starts out as extremely ambiguous ends justify means kind of guy but makes the leap down the well very quickly. Character who does fit this descript...

Pure intentions or not, killing people is generally a bad thing. That's not pacifism; it's logic. I agree, but it's both. I don't know, calling yourself "the god of the new world" in episode one seems to point to less than noble intentions. That's just his enormous ego...

Bagheera#606381 wrote:The morality of war has nothing to do with an assessment of Light's actions, which are both straightforward and repugnant.

Intentions matter. Light had truly noble intentions, create a perfect world. He considered his actions a necessary evil.

TehDonutKing#606124 wrote:Actually, Anno said it was for elementary school children.

Did he really? Source?

You're certainly welcome to feel that way, but good luck getting anyone else to buy into that line of reasoning. You might also want to look up the word 'qualifier' and ponder how it might apply here. I'd be as happy to be convinced otherwise as much as I'd be happy to convince ...

Finding Light and his actions morally repugnant has absolutely nothing to do whether one is pacifist or not. Furthermore it doesn't follow from not being pacifist that one considers all wars equal in justification so even if Light's activties counted as war waging (uhhh) one doesn&#...

Bagheera#605873 wrote:If you ends require the deaths of tends of thousands of people they probably aren't as virtuous as you think they are.

If you really believe that, you should be a pacifist. But, most people are not.

The greater part of the story is about Light trying to kill someone that by any non-perverted logic he should see as being on the same side as him. It's not perverted at all. Anyone would try to kill someone trying to kill them. Maybe if L weren't dedicating everything to trying to capture ...

Yes, and speaking of which. I know it's supposed to be ironic that horrible things are happening while this happy beat is going on, but I always just find myself unable to take the Third Impact seriously most of the time because of the music. That song is about suicide. Its lyrics literally mov...

Seele's not giving empathy to a pedophile who act's on his desires, I'm not either. Masturbation doesn't affect anyone, but yourself. It might as well not be an act, but simply a thought. So there is the possibility we might just be doing the wrong thing regarding pedophiles. Absolu...

Uhh, I'm one of those people who think pedophiles deserve our sympathy because, just like you say, it's a biological disorder. They're sick, not sickos. But that sympathy ends the moment they act on their desires. That's the moment they become sickos and I stop feeling sympathy or e...

Correctamundo :hikari_happy: It should be obvious, but since it's not I'll elaborate. It is NOT anyone's fault for being attracted to any type of person. It's as much a pedo's fault for being attracted to children as it is a gay person's fault for being attracted to the same...

Wow you've got a point it's totally unfair for me to make it personal. It's almost like I don't know the first thing about being a sociopath. I'm not supposed to think of ~other~ people who ~aren't~ personal to me as if they were personal to me, because then I might care! An...

Okay I'm going to try phrasing this a third time, in hopes of it meeting with approval of the internet police. *ahem* Now, one might think that what Shinji did at the beginning of EoE was just harmless and no one has grounds to really complain or to compare it to other bad things. But. What if ...

If they don't at least have the potential to cause harm I'm failing to see how the malicious intent is meaningful. Well, yeah. Pretty much anything immoral would have the potential to cause harm, but that doesn't mean anything to the other person unless it's realized. She found out ...

ninja'd sir

The pairing definitely crossed Anno's mind since we know his alternate live action movie focused on it. Sure, that was a world without Shinji AND 10 years later, but it's not like Asuka is too hopelessly in love with Shinji. Though, I think Asuka would probably keep her feelings inside out o...

Bryan: How is it you see no disconnect between "the act is immoral" and "the act did no harm"? It doesn't make any sense. Why should an immoral act necessarily cause harm to others to be immoral? I can think of plenty of things you could do that wouldn't hurt anyone, but...

If you believe the act was immoral, then my main point is made. I can certainly indulge a semantics discussion over how we define "dignity," and from there, how we can qualify what harm, if any, was actually visited upon Asuka. But beyond a point, I am not sure what end we can reach from ...

Wow, I step away from this thread for work and come back to find it...well, in much the same state, only a few pages longer. Bryan, I understand what you're saying, and I think what you're looking for is a non-recursive, non-tautological explanation for why the act was immoral. So here it i...