Who said anything about the show?

For me, it was at the insistence of my mother. I just wanted her to look at me, acknowledge I exist. Eventually though, it became a matter of self worth; of having a place and a way to define myself. I was lacking all direction. Desperate to be noticed, accepted or embraced by anyone. So that's ...

Since when have I ever cared about Anno's intent? Surely since when you ever tried to make sense of the series, in any way? I would also be of the opinion that all life on Earth, except of course the Angels, are part of the Lilin. I thought it was implied somewhere that all non-Adam life belong...

The whole "didn't actually do anything" part counts for something. I assume we're talking about the kiss. That's certainly an important point. Almost pushing someone down the stairs isn't pushing someone down the stairs. It's utterly meaningless. Though, even if he had...

I really don't know what to add here, since my take on this was covered in the Impact Events thread. If you have something specific in mind from that thread I can maybe elaborate or clarify, but it describes how and why Impacts happen as I understand them. I suppose I was wondering if you consi...

I agree, I'd like to delve into this at some later point, but for now we'll just stick to what we were already discussing. Though I don't think much else can be said from either point of view. Did you read my "impact variations" post by any chance Bagheera? That was the reason ...

I'd agree with her being primarily narcissistic, personally, "I'd rather die/lose than run away" says it all, to me. to further my last post about her being a prude: She tries to use sex with Kaji to validate herself as an independent woman. She tries to get Shinji to notice her, a...

As for Asuka's viewpoint, two points: first, remember that she's a bit of a prude (that part's irrational on her part), so she's probably view masturbation in any form as icky. "I know all about your little jerk-off fantasies about me. Go ahead, and do it like you alway...

That's the easiest explanation of it. Certainly.

Nope. :bigeyes: A woman is not a beautiful sex toy, Sorrow... I never said they were, I thought I included enough males in my explanations. I wasn't pointing to either gender at all . But people are attracted to one another physically and masturbation is a response to that. If it were Asuka who...

I doubt it would be helpful to say more now ... Nicely written post. I would like to add--to maybe elaborate--that the reason why her watching against her will and her being un-conscious would be different, is because the former would require a response from her. To force something upon her, visual...

From Asuka's point of view, given her personality and her view on things. It doesn't mean that she's right, however.

Asuka actually covered this in the helltrain sequence in P3II. Being appreciated is one thing, being objectified is another. And when the person in question doesn't have the guts to interact with you as a person, well, it goes from being annoying to being offensive. I fail to see how it could e...

That wouldn't offend me in the least. :) It's masturbating while looking at my body that offends me (I'm no pornstar, that's it). But if that person - like Shinji - did it out of suffering and because they're not on their right mind, I would forgive him, because he d...

Just a few considerations: When it comes to morality, it's rarely something that has to with being American, European or anything else. It's more about a personal perception of human life and boundaries of disrespect for another person's dignity. For example, in my perception of this, a...

I disagree with Sorrow thinking that someone taking advantage of a state of unconsciousness to circumvent your boundries is just 'a human act'. How I'd feel about it would matter a great deal on how I feel about the person committing such a breach, but the response would almost certainl...

I talk about sex just as causally as most people my age and am open to many concepts and ideas about sexuality, but find that the kinkier aspects make me slightly more uncomfortable to talk about openly with anyone that isn't the person I'm doing it with. There are just some things that des...

I wouldn't have a problem with a brother and sister having sex if they were aware of the potential issues and took precautions against it. I would have a problem with the brother sneaking in and jerking off over the sister without her knowledge or consent. I don't see how anyone can see tha...

Or is that the Americanism here? Going to extremes, rather than just saying "that's bad, don't do that"? Maybe that's the divide. Maybe. I don't know. I think Americans seem to condemn anything that appears like an irregular sex drive (non standard hetero?). For ex...

You . . . you consider jerking off over an unconscious woman a normal part of being human? Americanism or not, I just can't get behind that being okay. Like, ever. And I'm pretty sure that's not on account of prudishness on my part, because I'm very much pro-sex in other contexts. I...