Fascinating discussion - thank you for setting me straight about this! I admit that I should have known better than to play with machine translators and expecting them to give proper results! I've tried some online searches with the Latin language, but I can't seem to find anything. None of the usu...

@Reichu , what a impressive analysis! Even though I'm still skeptic about the Adams' division you propose, this proposition regarding Mark.09 seems to account for every single point provided by NTE! And with the Eva serial numbering you propose, we hopefully will be able to validate it in 3.0+1.0. ...

Adam had been asleep for billions of years, impaled on the Spear. She only woke up is because Seele send a bunch of people down there to yank the Spear out and perform some weird experiment, with the results of creating the 17th Angel, triggering Second Impact, and giving souls to Angels 3~16. Seco...

Errata corrige: fadia in Brazilian Portuguese sounds fajee-uh. Faria was actually a better guess. On the other hand, seda and sera virtually share the same pronunciation, so I'll stick to my first interpretation. That said, Faria seda mês, ou Faria tu sê? should translate into something like Would ...

Curious, I always saw more influence of Kleinian psychodynamics in the Instrumentality. The whole "breaking of the ego boundaries" and confrontational analysis presented on episodes 25 and 26 reminded me very much of my supervised practice.

Ok, I've been listening to it on repeat for a few hours and it doesn't sound like anything in portuguese, at all :( The proposed phrasing "Faria. Sepa messo. Faria. Tu se." is not entirely in portuguese either: - " Faria " is the 1st and 3rd person subjective conjugation for the ...

Native brazilian-portuguese speaker here! Never heard most of these words, and even the existing ones are used in a form that doesn't make sense at all... I'll try to listen to the song to figure out what's going on - never occurred to me that those lines might be in portuguese, but thinking of it n...

I'm not trying to push us into a position where we can't have an honest discussion, I'm just having a hard time reasoning out why the FAR would come into possession of the Fruit of Life and then go out of their way to not integrate it with the Fruit of Knowledge. Same here. As I said before, the he...

Wow, lots of good arguments, folks! :w00t: Let me dive into them... the original Fruit of Life would have been a product of the Fruit of Knowledge That is indeed a possibility. I would argue that it may not necessarily be the way they got it, but I don't think that it can be ruled out either. Beings...

So not only was Second Impact a deliberate Inside job, so was First Impact Team Lilith surely needs some therapy... One wonders how those seven were chosen And that is something we'll probably never know... :sniffle: But given Lilith's less-than-friendly attitude towards Adam and the whole "do...

"Knowing we would lose our home world, we set off on a journey into the midst of space." First post in the thread. Yes, I'm aware of that... What I'm saying is that this phrase is somewhat vague: We don't know the amount of preparation that they had, we don't know if there was some cultur...

I would have to think about most of what you've said, to avoid kneejerk responses. Please, take your time! It's good to know that in some way, the exposition is being mentally provocative ^_^ It's my main reason to follow Evangelion, actually :D If you don't believe the FAR possessed physical limit...

Lots of different points to address, so let's go: - The concept of "other universes" doesn't necessarily means "from another dimension" or "from a parallel universe". In real-life astrophysics, it usually means a region of space with no causal connection to another spec...

Taking the Spear out of Adam, sending it to the Dead Sea, and then sending it back to Antarctica just seems way to convoluted. Real-life tidbit here: it's very common to send samples from an extraction site to another facility to carry out analysis of the material. So, if the expedition didn't want...

Ok, been trying to decipher the Japanese subs from 3.33 with limited success... Please, check if this is correct: - The phrasing means "vessel of Adams", as in "bowl of rice". So, in some way, the Mark 09 had Adams (singular or plural) "inside" it; - Ritsuko's phrase do...

It's used in Explanation of Evangelion 1.01: "Entry plug, the vessel of a soul". Thanks for the response! I'm trying to follow a deductive logic (in opposition to an inductive approach) here, so let me follow up: - We know that Mark 09 is identified as "Vessel of Adams"; - The o...

Thanks for the clarification on the translation's meaning Reichu ! I follow your logic, but kind of disagree on the conclusion that Mark 09 is an Adams' Core based on the following: - Mark 09 is identified as being a Core; - Mark 09 is identified as being "Wunder's original master"; - Wund...

Thinking about the true nature of the Wunder and its "original master", the Mark 09, I've come to the following conclusions: - We are told that the Mark 09 is "Wunder's original master"; - We know that Wille needed a power-source of sorts to make the Wunder fully functional; - We...