I get what you're saying Bryan, but I think the conclusion you should reach is "if there are no consequences, it isn't rape" It kinda is though. Rape has a pretty clear definition of sex without consent. The same thing with sexual assault. They're definitely ugly words that se...

This is not how rape works. Please stop putting it into a hypothetical situation where it would be possible. It's insulting and disrespectful. Also, I will be furious if you ever compare a woman to a sex doll again. Some things you just don't do. And TOPIC, please. I understand that I contr...

Actually, I understand where Bryan is going here. It took me a while, but I decided to start thinking like him and I finally got it. Correct me if I'm wrong, Bryan; what you believe is that if somebody is raped/violated in any way and they don't know about it , it is okay because in their r...

Dude, if you can't understand why somebody would feel violated, used and unclean after being taken advantage of in their sleep, then you're either full of shit, intentionally contrarian or developmentally stunted. They wouldn't feel that way if they didn't know about it, which is th...

You just said rape is okay if there are no consequences. Given that starting point it's really hard to see why we should even bother. Well, maybe you shouldn't. It's a pretty radical concept and on top of that I suspect that even if someone agreed, they would consider it too taboo to ev...

Anonymous_Evafan#604568 wrote:If you can't understand just how dangerous that line of reasoning is I'm not sure there is anything I could say to make you understand.

Well, that's what I'm here to find out.

Anonymous_Evafan#604563 wrote:No one is going to agree with this.

True, I'm not here to change anyone's mind, but I like listening to everyone's reasoning for why I might be wrong.

Illegal things are generally so for a reason Our opinion greatly differs if you think it is generally so for a moral reason. That may be why laws in general were created, but they have been tainted so much by greed that controlling people seems to be a much more common reason nowadays. It doesn'...

By doing it in the room with her, he's presenting it to her, whether she's conscious or not. Above, I pointed out that his masturbation could be read as a transgression to get her to become angry with him after shaking her and begging her to respond doesn't work. It's the way he doe...

First, is this sexual assault? Couldn't be more irrelevant since we are discussing the morality of it which the legality cares nothing for, but yes you are right. Second, does it affect Asuka? Yes, it does. She was unconscious at the time, not dead, and as she noted during P3II she knew what he...

Not telling her would be immoral. Telling her would have psychological damage. I guess he shouldn't have done it in the first place, huh? I couldn't disagree more strongly. I don't see why there would be an obligation to tell somebody everything you did even if it involves them. It may ...

That being said, how is it different to masturbate to a person because she's in the room? What's the actual harm? good question In fact, is it actually morally wrong to violate someone's personal space, rather than just a rude thing to do? I think so, yes. I think rudeness is just being...

I want to let everyone know that I have seen so many posts in other threads by many of the people in this thread and I know that some of you are very intelligent people, smarter than me. However, in this thread all of you look like uncharacteristically close minded buffoons. Acting like there is an ...