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by Bagheera
Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:06 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The relationship between Shinji and Asuka and generally
Replies: 185
Views: 51493

Assuming we're following the DC version of the plot I can get behind this, which is why the word 'unconscious' was in my writeup. Sure. I'd still argue that she didn't intend for anyone to hear her, but yes, she does seem to cycle back and forth between recognizing her failures ...
by Bagheera
Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:58 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The relationship between Shinji and Asuka and generally
Replies: 185
Views: 51493

So how are you seeing in this? I'm honestly puzzled because you seem to be mixing both together in ways that make no sense to me at all, even at times appearing to be directly at odds. This is gonna sound like a weaselly answer, but I swear I don't mean it that way: I honestly think she'...
by Bagheera
Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:04 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The relationship between Shinji and Asuka and generally
Replies: 185
Views: 51493

I'm referring exactly to the DC material, which is pretty much 50% "what is really going on" and 50% extra flashbacks to at least recontextualise Asuka's actions and reactions, and often to spin them into something completely different to what we had actually been shown. I didn...
by Bagheera
Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:23 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The relationship between Shinji and Asuka and generally
Replies: 185
Views: 51493

I think we're looking at this from completely different moral frameworks then, SSD. From my perspective, the rightness or wrongness of an action is based solely on the intentions of a person, not on the outcome. Bad results are only a person's fault if they intended that outcome or were neg...
by Bagheera
Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:50 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The relationship between Shinji and Asuka and generally
Replies: 185
Views: 51493

The kiss wasn't designed to fail, she just wasn't confident enough to make such a move without a cover story. If she were serious about it she wouldn't have made it so uncomfortable for him. She wasn't expressing her affection for him here, she was just using him for her own ends. W...
by Bagheera
Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:00 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The relationship between Shinji and Asuka and generally
Replies: 185
Views: 51493

Asuka's downward spiral started in ep15 with Shinji's complete failure to respond to her kiss, Kaji's casual rejection moments later, and her losing the top spot in the pilot roster in ep16. Yes, but note that kiss was designed to fail, that Kaji had always rejected her (this was no...
by Bagheera
Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:32 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The relationship between Shinji and Asuka and generally
Replies: 185
Views: 51493

That's true, but it isn't necessarily a good thing when your shared experiences are truamatic and more often than not divisive sore spots. "Hey Shinji, remember that times you showed my up at the one thing I dedicated my life to being good at, eventually causing my suicidal breakdown? ...
by Bagheera
Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:19 pm
Forum: Fandom Area
Topic: How to write Shinji & Asuka romancefics
Replies: 51
Views: 11388

Speaking from (admittedly limited to myself and a few other people I know, but still) experience: a relationship in which one partner is notably more mentally stable than the other tends to destabilize the saner one while having no particular effect on the less sane. Asuka and Shinji are ne...
by Bagheera
Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:06 pm
Forum: Fandom Area
Topic: How to write Shinji & Asuka romancefics
Replies: 51
Views: 11388

That has a lot to do with it, actually; and if one insists on pairing them with someone, let it be each with someone who's got their own shit together and can handle the task. Fair enough, but: First, in many fics they aren't all that fucked up (ISRP, Angelic Days, etc). Things also...
by Bagheera
Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:49 pm
Forum: Fandom Area
Topic: How to write Shinji & Asuka romancefics
Replies: 51
Views: 11388

It's probably worth noting for context that NemZ and I are pretty much anti-shippers of this pairing. I know, and it's always struck me as somewhat irrational. I can get behind opposition to a Shinji/Rei pairing -- she's a clone of his mother, after all, and is a de facto sister more th...
by Bagheera
Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:25 pm
Forum: Fandom Area
Topic: How to write Shinji & Asuka romancefics
Replies: 51
Views: 11388

But it's hope of a personal growth sort, not something that in any way hints at WAFF on the horizon. In EoTV Shinji doesn't give Asuka any sort of special consideration whatsoever, and now that their personal traumas have been addressed they have nothing at all in common. That's not tru...
by Bagheera
Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:04 pm
Forum: Fandom Area
Topic: How to write Shinji & Asuka romancefics
Replies: 51
Views: 11388

Even that isn't a "Happy ever after" -- however you read it (as concurrent with EoE, or an awakening on the other side of Complementation), it's an ending that sets out a new beginning (as in, when the hikkikomori stumbles out into the Big Blue Room for the first time ...
by Bagheera
Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:44 am
Forum: Fandom Area
Topic: How to write Shinji & Asuka romancefics
Replies: 51
Views: 11388

>Evangelion >have a "happily ever after" ending. I think I see your problem. While you don't have to go full-on grimdark, melancholy to bittersweet seems a more fitting register to aim for. [points at EoTV] Not necessarily. :smirk: One thing I think might be worth mentioning is that S...
by Bagheera
Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:31 am
Forum: Completely and Utterly Off-Topic
Topic: Official Welcome Thread : Jun 21, 2004 to Nov 13, 2010
Replies: 3989
Views: 457889

Well, you'll find most people around here have taken the red pill, so to speak. Personally I find that most of the heavy lifting in that relationship gets done by Shinji in the kitchen scene in EoE -- doing that two-hand lift at arms length is quite impressive! :devil: Tch. He only strangles be...
by Bagheera
Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:22 pm
Forum: Completely and Utterly Off-Topic
Topic: Official Welcome Thread : Jun 21, 2004 to Nov 13, 2010
Replies: 3989
Views: 457889

Er...what? You ARE an A-S shipper (Kudos!), and then you're NOT an A-S shipper (>:()? Well, most stories don't do the heavy lifting needed to sell the idea, so I'm not a fan of them. I'm a fan of the idea, in other words, but not the way it's generally put in...
by Bagheera
Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:13 pm
Forum: Completely and Utterly Off-Topic
Topic: Official Welcome Thread : Jun 21, 2004 to Nov 13, 2010
Replies: 3989
Views: 457889

Greetings all. I guess into posts are the thing to do here, so here goes. I've appreciated Eva for a loooooong time, but only crossed into real fandom territory relatively recently. Funny story, that; I went and read Nobody Dies, which got me watching Rebuild, which in turn got me watching the s...

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