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The implication is that Yui is the active party -- she frees herself from the Bakelite when the time is right, bundles Shinji into place and goes off to to run her planned Trojan attack on 3I. As in grabbed Shinji and placed him in the entry plug? Maybe guided him to the entry plug, but for Shinji ...

These trends in avatars are a little unnerving as well.

I suppose... but it's not like kaworu would kill himself, and it's also not like he has a fragile ATF either.

On second thought, I'm not sure if that technology was available or not. After all, it is rather old, and there are other intelligent people in the world than Ritsuko under Seele hire. As for the relationship between Seele and Kaworu, I think it's no question that he was a side effect from 2...

@xfactor30seconds: 1: shapes and molds LCL based on your concept of self is a better description (i.e. people are not static). thinking of an ATF "holding" the soul is incorrect because it is the soul that projects the ATF as Reichu mentioned above. It's more of the soul protec...

Heh, in Australia myself, but only temporarily. To those here though, are any planning on attending Manifest this weekend?

Hmmm... that's odd.

As for Seele though, I had thought they didn't know about the reiquarium until they interrogated Ritsuko. If not, I would guess that getting Ritsuko involved might ruin their plans.

yes, check the notes section

I'd say no because dropping the ATF would mean letting the "other" in, and attacking is intended to keep the "other" out, to protect oneself. Also if the attacks are of the same phase space (as the nerv techs called it) as the ATF, which would make sense, then it shou...

Show me when a Rei appears for every nonhuman organism. There would be Reis up the ass! GNR pretty clearly harvest human souls only. The SEELE only speak about humans as those who are under the Human Limitation Theory. The FAR had us in mind when they sent The Seed of Life. Can't really do that...

Just checking up on the I ching, its roots are taoist rather than zen. This poses a problem as the initial quote was zen in nature, and with the previous two posts, it certainly seems unlikely that instrumentality had anything to do with zen and enlightenment. Hrm... pushing further though, if anyon...

This might go without saying, but it's interesting that Ritsuko says water and light. Rei's definitely connected to the moon in just about every shot Anno can spare, but in this scene, it's pretty deliberate that Ritsuko avoids saying 'moon' or anything related to nighttime--it&...

I'd agree with what LiLi said. Speaking of which...

In other words, Rei is a reflection of the moon? I like this development, it suits her well. Not as sure about the Zen undertones that you refer to, but definitely interested in what else there is to take from it. As for the phrase that was quoted, based on the above, I think the important part woul...

@Shinji-kun: I think that accepting reality for what it is was important, but the show also tells us to keep in mind what we can do with that reality in front of us, that we can adapt to it, and also overcome things that are perhaps not to our liking, by allowing change to ourselves. That was what t...

All this time, we have been assuming: 1) that Kaworu interpreted their saying "resurrected body" to refer to his original body, and 2) that Kaworu was looking for a one-and-only unique exact self-same original body. I always had a feeling 1 wasn't quite right, and that convers...

What I'm saying is that Shinji (and I'm talking specifically about the Shinji case here) came back as an individual first, of his own choice - he was later able to confirm he had come back through that mechanism of rejection with Asuka. The meaning of the "I need you" scen...

Asuka was a logic choice for a candidate in the narrative sense. Ah, gotcha. AT Field is "the wall of the heart". It doesn't necessarily mean "rejection", per se - but it's, in my understanding, that metaphorical wall that gives you shape as an individual, separating you...