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by Xiel
Wed May 12, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Newtype May 10th issue interviews
Replies: 129
Views: 15041

Re: Newtype May 10th issue interviews

It seems Kaworu was also created by humans (although he seems "more difficult" to create than Rei). I think the open coffins were the failed attemps from SEELE to create Kaworu. Huh? Kaworu is not made by anyone in NTE. The only experiments are Shikinami and Ayanami series. Those are the ...
by Xiel
Wed May 12, 2021 6:44 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Newtype May 10th issue interviews
Replies: 129
Views: 15041

Re: Newtype May 10th issue interviews

Kaworu's age is a curious case. He was born in Jo, but he seems to have memories of his past lifes. It's pretty difficult to say if he will be older due to these memories (especially considering that his other lives could be pretty short). Rei II's age is also an interesting case. At the start of R...
by Xiel
Tue May 11, 2021 6:43 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Newtype May 10th issue interviews
Replies: 129
Views: 15041

Re: Newtype May 10th issue interviews

Let me harken back to two relationships from NGE: Misato/Shinji and Kaji/Asuka. The fundamental difference is that Kensuke and Asuka have the same age , and their supposed age difference is due to a supernatural (meta) curse, which was broken in the end (we don't know exactly when the train station...
by Xiel
Tue May 11, 2021 11:45 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Newtype May 10th issue interviews
Replies: 129
Views: 15041

Re: Newtype May 10th issue interviews

I think it's much more helpful to look at this, (& the similar scene where Kaworu kneels next to a baby sized Shinji) through a lens of transactional analysis or the concept of the 'inner child' - basically the raw emotional needs that went unmet as a child. Ie, it's not that she relates to him...
by Xiel
Tue May 11, 2021 7:33 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Newtype May 10th issue interviews
Replies: 129
Views: 15041

Re: Newtype May 10th issue interviews

I think it goes a little deeper than just bento-gifting guys! :tongue: In their bed conversation in 2.0 (which is all but stated to be the moment she fell for him), she says to herself at the end of their conversation "I see, he's just like me". And I think that encompass the nature of he...
by Xiel
Tue May 11, 2021 4:41 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Newtype May 10th issue interviews
Replies: 129
Views: 15041

Re: Newtype May 10th issue interviews

This new bit of information about Asuka and Kensuke's relationship certainly gives food for thought, since her Instrumentality scene is completely centered on her longing for parents and Kensuke appears as said parental figure to pat her head. I think she longs for a family , not necessarily a fath...
by Xiel
Tue May 11, 2021 4:22 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Newtype May 10th issue interviews
Replies: 129
Views: 15041

Re: Newtype May 10th issue interviews

Though I still find the conclusion that "this is some underling getting it wrong" plain unrealistic. If they were talking about "love" in a broader sense they would probably use a Japanese word, not go for the cheesy Engrishs When used in English is specifically about romantic l...
by Xiel
Wed May 05, 2021 8:39 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 94086

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

... what. What?! Do you have any source on that, because holy shit if that isn't the craziest thing I've read: Here it is. Scroll down to gwern's translation. :bigeyes: It is not the first time he praised Gendo either. I mean this could be a recent change of heart for NTE. I love you guys trying to...
by Xiel
Wed May 05, 2021 1:26 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 94086

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

So you ascribe to the theory that Shinji gained and retained the memories of all the previous timelines and that's why he appears as an adult in the epilogue? It was before that. He seemed to become a different character after he got into Eva 01 again. Like his emotional reactions (Asuka's death, m...
by Xiel
Wed May 05, 2021 1:01 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 94086

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

It's never put as a bad thing in Rebuild. What are you talking about? The phrase wasn't an accusation and was placed after Shinji and Gendo hug it out, and Shinji loves his father. You're right that Shinji realizes the comparison after he has already forgiven his father (and notice his own similari...
by Xiel
Wed May 05, 2021 12:38 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 94086

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

I REALLY hope there is another reason for Kaworu calling Gendo father. Maybe Gendo being his creators. Or even Kaworu being a modified clone of Gendo. I would accept almost any reason that isn't "lover's father". Kaworu doesn't have creators, though. He's the first Angel born out of a cof...
by Xiel
Wed May 05, 2021 12:10 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 94086

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

I don't think they try to use other relationships to whitewash Gendo/Yui relationship. I think it is more to show parallellims between the characters. I disagree with you here, the relationships and characters parallel, in particular as well with pilot = eva thing. Misato wanted to die along Kaji t...
by Xiel
Wed May 05, 2021 4:18 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: that "unofficial image song" by Ogata... It's out
Replies: 26
Views: 6194

Re: that "unofficial image song" by Ogata... It's out

It could also be Kaworu. He also has pure white arms. :tongue: :lol: Now that you mention it... the entire song could be about Kaworu, there's only the line about that person who grew up that would look out of place. I thought different verses were Rei (verse 1), Kaworu (specifically the part he hu...
by Xiel
Wed May 05, 2021 3:50 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 94086

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

I think Shinji ending up with Mari, other than Mari's weird background as Yui's classmate, is fine. Her personality balances him. The only thing that bothered me in the ending is Shinji not saying hi to the other pilots before running off with Mari. For the record, I don't think the age differences ...
by Xiel
Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:07 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?
Replies: 94
Views: 12595

Re: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?

Mari has a big stygma that 14 years working for WILLE doesn't seem to totally erase. Also, Mari doesn't know what Kaworu and Shinji are panning. She may think they plan to follow SEELE's plan. Mari didn't tell Misato anything about the spears, or the Impact theory which she knew about as was part o...
by Xiel
Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:53 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?
Replies: 94
Views: 12595

Re: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?

Thank you for deleting that unintentional double post. I had meant to edit mine and I clicked the wrong option. :facepalm: And yes, not listening to Kaworu when he told Shinji to stop because the spears were the wrong ones is part of the "learn to listen to the others" theme, but let's ima...
by Xiel
Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:45 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?
Replies: 94
Views: 12595

Re: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?

You're right that the restoration of the Earth using Alien technology was never the "wrong" choice. The issue was always Shinji's attitude and he was "punished" by that in Q. That said, the message wasn't so clear at the time of Q (it isn't so weird to interpret it as Shinji bei...
by Xiel
Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:50 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?
Replies: 94
Views: 12595

Re: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?

So, humanity really need a better restoration for the World (that Shinji gives them). I agree, but they still did a lot. Shinji and Misato both tried to fix their mistakes and their parents' mistakes. And they succeeded. There's nothing wrong to end Eva with a positive note where Shinji matures and...
by Xiel
Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:44 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Loop Theory (I Really was born to meet you)
Replies: 290
Views: 42006

Re: Loop Theory (I Really was born to meet you)

This is all explained using my own framework for this, and I won't hold anyone else to it, but I think it provides a level of consistency to parallel universes and cycles, and consistency is something we sorely need when understanding Evangelion! Until proven otherwise, both of our interpretations ...
by Xiel
Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:27 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?
Replies: 94
Views: 12595

Re: Did 3.0+1.0 justify WILLE's treatment of Shinji?

I think it's just the lightning of the vortex that gives everything a red color, because once it stops, the Geofront is still made of stone, and in the Next Time Preview (that we know happened during the timeskip) the surroundings of Tokyo-3 were still made of stone: https://wiki.evageeks.org/image...

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