Seele submits to God's plan But this contradicts the underlined quote above. I think that there isn't anything preventing the forbidden union of both fruits. Absolutely, they did this several times during the course of the story. SEELE is a fundamentalist group, so they won't commit such sacrilege,...

Konja7#928896 wrote:As I said, Asuka seems to big for the controls of her entry plug (her legs are too longs).

So, I think she is an adult at that point.

May be. There are some resemblances with her adult eyelashes, which never were shown . But may be she just stretched out.

It seems, that she has an adult body only on the "cosmic shore" when Shinji talks with her in the anti-Universe. Her suit is torn, so it does not fit her. This probably means that she is also free from the curse of EVA. But Shinji asks her to hail Kensuke, and she definitely departs to the...

Shinji clearly states that he will create a new world using the lance and the God's power. It is convenient to think about this as a multiverse, since Asuka departed to the original part of the Universe where EVAs have existed. Because causality brought by EVAs is erased from Shinji's new world, he ...

So Seele don't resist God, but NERV does resist God (and Seele). Seele does and does not resist God, there is a contradiction in this very phrase :). This is from the 3.0 01:16:16 Gendo: The time to amend the Dead Sea Scrolls has come. This is farewell. Though you have also changed the form of your...

Lacissal#928718 wrote:Gendo outright states what SEELE's plan is...

Unfortunately, there is nothing in this quote that tells that this is Seele's plan. And since there are other plans (Geondo's and Yui's), it definitely should be different from them.

It seems, that the main driver of the story is the egoism of Gendo, his wish to rejoin with Yui, who was the meaning of his life, and he would pay any price for this, even eschatological. Since Evangelion is based on the Scripture just for fun, eschatological meaning may be just an addendum. I'd say...

I made this thread to discuss about Seele nature and the God/Ancient Beings background in Shin Eva. Theory: in the Rebuild Seele is just another sentient race bestowed with the fruit of wisdom that literally exists on Earth in the form of monoliths from A. C. Clarke "Space Odyssey 2001", ...

They just display different levels of social awkwardness in they own way, except Mari, who is innatelly extremely socially skilled. This is the central point of the psychological layer of the narrative. Rei is the terminal case of asociality, Asuka is an egoist, Shinji lags behind in development. Al...

This may be a move a la Kurt Vonnegut. Kaworu may exist above the human Universe, and therefore above time, so death and life are the same for him, as he asserts at the original series. The coffins may just be a fancy way of Seele to store Kaworu series clones, so Kaworu's soul transfers there from ...

It is definitely not a sequel, because Seele there are not a bunch of religious fanatics, but literally exist as monoliths from Arthur C. Clarke "Odyssey". At the meeting in 3.0 Gendo thanks them on the behalf of humanity, which suggests that they are an another sentient race bestowed with...

Haven't read the full thread, but the third impact happens just after the near third impact, which is clearly shown in 2.0.
Kaji's sacrifice may somehow be related to the decapitation/hibernation of Lilith, as the scene in 3.0+1.0 suggests (it is shown near his departure on the vehicle).

@Monk Ed

Actually this is a very good point being combined with Keel's health. In general, this may mean that Seele cared only for themselves, but the process implied the complementation of the whole humanity.

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Summarized at the wiki.

Perhaps, but I don't see any reason to alter the current translation without sufficient evidence. My interpretations of the sentence should not be considered credible either, and it's worth to consult Reichu on this, but I think that the last part of the sentence is under the context of the...

As you know, there are even places in NGE itself which allow free use of context (Kaworu's words, for example). As it was explained, you saw that souls of entire Humanity were entering and exiting the egg in the show, and there were no traces of Seele's presence in Unit-01. Because K...

Do you mean when Yui says that any place can become Heaven if one believes in oneself? That's talking about Shinji coping in the post-3I world, not an actual metaphysical transportation to Heaven. The only real beings that can be considered "God" in NGE are the Seeds of Life (Adam...

What I get is that Seele wanted to fuse all the souls of both angels and lilin... I guess, you mean "A sacrament to unite God, humans, and all other life forms in death.", but this is a yet another subtle quote which translation is questionable. It actually may mean "For the sake of ...

Gendo says to SEELE, "I've also killed the God you have long since abandoned", the God being either Mark.06 or Lilith, is dead. Remember, SEELE were born before the first human civilization, the God you have long since abandoned could referring to Lilith, who is dead. And the True eva...

@ObsessiveMathsFreak You would easily reconcile all this quotation from the show with CI if you assume that Seele's goal is only the section C. Section D describes Gendo's plan, and Nerv's elite (Gendo) is mentioned in the phrase you can't reconcile. If you accept this, every...

Kaworu may talk about that the choker had activated because he was detected as an angel (it was made for him originally, and Kaworu was the trigger of its activation), and there is no Shinji's guilt in Kaworu's death. Shinji actually may be tje trigger of awakening, because Kaworu...