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by gchristnsn
Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:24 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

@Monk Ed

Actually this is a very good point being combined with Keel's health. In general, this may mean that Seele cared only for themselves, but the process implied the complementation of the whole humanity.

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Summarized at the wiki.
by gchristnsn
Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:43 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

Perhaps, but I don't see any reason to alter the current translation without sufficient evidence. My interpretations of the sentence should not be considered credible either, and it's worth to consult Reichu on this, but I think that the last part of the sentence is under the context of the...
by gchristnsn
Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:17 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

As you know, there are even places in NGE itself which allow free use of context (Kaworu's words, for example). As it was explained, you saw that souls of entire Humanity were entering and exiting the egg in the show, and there were no traces of Seele's presence in Unit-01. Because K...
by gchristnsn
Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:21 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

Do you mean when Yui says that any place can become Heaven if one believes in oneself? That's talking about Shinji coping in the post-3I world, not an actual metaphysical transportation to Heaven. The only real beings that can be considered "God" in NGE are the Seeds of Life (Adam...
by gchristnsn
Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:57 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

What I get is that Seele wanted to fuse all the souls of both angels and lilin... I guess, you mean "A sacrament to unite God, humans, and all other life forms in death.", but this is a yet another subtle quote which translation is questionable. It actually may mean "For the sake of ...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:09 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mark.06 in 3.0 Discussion
Replies: 273
Views: 214966

Gendo says to SEELE, "I've also killed the God you have long since abandoned", the God being either Mark.06 or Lilith, is dead. Remember, SEELE were born before the first human civilization, the God you have long since abandoned could referring to Lilith, who is dead. And the True eva...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:00 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

@ObsessiveMathsFreak You would easily reconcile all this quotation from the show with CI if you assume that Seele's goal is only the section C. Section D describes Gendo's plan, and Nerv's elite (Gendo) is mentioned in the phrase you can't reconcile. If you accept this, every...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:41 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Regarding 4th Impact's Cancellation
Replies: 6
Views: 2755

Kaworu may talk about that the choker had activated because he was detected as an angel (it was made for him originally, and Kaworu was the trigger of its activation), and there is no Shinji's guilt in Kaworu's death. Shinji actually may be tje trigger of awakening, because Kaworu...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:29 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mark.06 in 3.0 Discussion
Replies: 273
Views: 214966

^ It's toooo far fetched, because Cassius and Longinus refer to the same biblical figure, and probably there are spears of just one kind (they're just metamorphic living beings created by FAR to hibernate SoLs). And Gendo promises Seele to kill some god they have abandoned, he probab...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:54 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Why "3rd Angel" now = "4th Angel"?
Replies: 9
Views: 2995

Possible. But if to assume that everything could be treated literally and in NGE Rei's personality also was in 00, presence of multiple Rei's personalities is also possible, although less possible in this key.
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:57 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Why "3rd Angel" now = "4th Angel"?
Replies: 9
Views: 2995

Ok sounds good has the fact that they called Rei's core "L-00" been discussed? Could this be a hint that the soul inside Rei's eva is what everyone thought? Liliths soul or an aspect of it? There is a thread with quotes you may find interesting. Personally, I think that the bigges...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:00 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Why "3rd Angel" now = "4th Angel"?
Replies: 9
Views: 2995

Re: 4th angel

Probably, this may help: http://wiki.evageeks.org/Angels#List_of_Angels
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:43 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Failures of Infinity: Don't lose your head!
Replies: 198
Views: 1504543

The reference to "Apollo's Song" manga was requested, here it is:

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I think, there are some parallels with the epicenter of the third impact (fertilization by FOIs).
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:37 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mark.06 in 3.0 Discussion
Replies: 273
Views: 214966

I agree that the Mark.06 may have been trying to suppress Lilith's will, but I don't see why turning her into core is necessary as well, since wouldn't turning her into core make her invincible like the Twelfth Angel and the Mark.09? That also doesn't seem to be SEELE/Gendo's in...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:29 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

^ She also states at the ep. 21 that all what she's doing is for the sake of Shinji. So, it's obvious, that she is altruistic actually because she wants to leave Humanity as-is. [edit] Since no one is interested in further discussion, I assume that all is clear now about the section D. You m...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:27 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mark.06 in 3.0 Discussion
Replies: 273
Views: 214966

Yes, it may had decapitated Lilith if it was necessary, for example, to suppress her will. And it frozen itself because it's needed for the transformation of Lilith's remnants. But Lilith's skin, the embryo and hardened shell of FOIs, supported by the reference to the scene from "Ap...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:32 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mark.06 in 3.0 Discussion
Replies: 273
Views: 214966

There is a problem with that theory : if Mark.06's goal was just to "freeze" Lilith's fertilization process, then why when the spears were removed Lilith's corpse exploded instead of resuming her cellular division? Don't know. But it would explode right after fertilization...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:29 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

So the complimented soul of all humanity can't deal with it, but somehow she expects to be fine just wandering off into the galaxy with the vague notion that 'anywhere can be a heaven' and all that crap. I don't think so. She knows that she will suffer. What makes her so special ...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:01 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [CI] Details of the Human Instrumentality Project: D
Replies: 59
Views: 10079

And this squares up with HER choosing voluntary exile at the end of EoE... how, exactly? She starts a conspiracy against Seele by throwing her son and husband in solitude, because she can not fight Seele alone (Shinji would taste solitude and reject the complementation). The hypocrisy and s...
by gchristnsn
Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:48 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mark.06 in 3.0 Discussion
Replies: 273
Views: 214966

We forget that there are at least two hints that Lilith's resurrection somehow deals with Ayanami, and the decapitation of FOIs may somehow be related to the decapitation of Lilith. If they're are decapitated just because their time is limited as in EoE (for example, Lilith is decapitate...

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