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by Jornophelanthas
Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:17 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Quality of NTE containment thread
Replies: 398
Views: 65608

Re: What was the point of Mark.06?

Mark-06 is also central to the untold events of "Rebuild 2.5", by which I mean the large time skip between 2.0 and 3.0. It was the the singular tool that stopped Near-Third Impact at the end of 2.0, and it was central to the events of (Actual) Third Impact that happened off-screen, since i...
by Jornophelanthas
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:53 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Announcement! Evangelion: 3.0 (-46h)
Replies: 36
Views: 15013

Re: Evangelion: 3.0 (-46h)

And once again Q proves itself as being the center piece of this whole tetralogy, you like it or not. It's as if everything orbits it somehow. Even more so than Shin (which, in itself, is a product of the previous movie and its themes, settings, concepts...) I would argue that the centerpiece of th...
by Jornophelanthas
Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:39 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The fate of Reis 3,4 & 5
Replies: 7
Views: 3713

Re: The fate of Reis 3,4 & 5

Here are another few decapitation instances: In 3.0, when Kaworu is killed by the DSS choker. You can clearly see his head float upwards from the center of the explosion at his neck before the dividing screen is fully splattered by his blood. In 2.0, after devouring most of Unit-00 (piloted by Rei 2...
by Jornophelanthas
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:30 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

During my previous stint in these forums (which was pre-3.0), I constantly found myself arguing against people who aggressively held to the point that Rebuild was inferior and should be disregarded, for various reasons, including the very existence of Mari. Some of them also tended to argue that bec...
by Jornophelanthas
Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:14 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

The whole point of my line of questioning is, ultimately, to reach THIS: I don't like engaging in discussions that go in this direction, for reasons of personal preference. Explicit confirmation that we are not on the same page, that I’m not missing anything, and that there’s really no point in fur...
by Jornophelanthas
Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:14 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Is Rei’s hair literally blue?
Replies: 36
Views: 9465

Re: Is Rei’s hair literally blue?

While I don't have the quote to hand, it was definitely implied that she had been another comparatively recent arrival to the class (not just in episode 26). I will add that the "slice of life" sequence from episode 26 is very much a parody of "school life" anime/manga tropes. I...
by Jornophelanthas
Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:15 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

I don't like engaging in discussions that go in this direction, for reasons of personal preference. My interest is in discussing the symbolism, the meaning (hidden or otherwise), the psychological development of the characters and the philosophical implications of Neon Genesis Evangelion, End of Eva...
by Jornophelanthas
Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:52 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE
Replies: 34
Views: 7598

Re: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE

That's an interesting perspective. What do you make of Fuyutsuki's line "The things you wanted have been gathered" ( Reichu ) / "I've assembled the things you wanted" (Prime subtitles)? I had always understood this to point to prior collaboration between the pair -- you don't th...
by Jornophelanthas
Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:25 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

Shinji and Mari are still in minus space about to exit it and reunite with the rest in the real world I do not believe that is the implication of the final scene. In order to exit the Anti-Universe back to Evangelion-earth (now free of Evangelions), one needs to traves the Gates of Guf. That can on...
by Jornophelanthas
Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:37 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

My question remains: but why tho? There are some plausible in-universe arguments that we could deduce. Maybe the Anti-Universe is a place where the normal laws of physics do not apply, and normal humans - even those protected by advanced technology - instantly unravel. Actually, scratch that! It is...
by Jornophelanthas
Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:36 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

As a side note, I think there’s a case to be made that Misato , not Mari, serves as a better “guide” to Shinji out of Eva, both narratively and metatextually. Narratively, Misato overcoming her guilt over her inciting role in cheering Shinji on rescue Rei (and thus being at least partially responsi...
by Jornophelanthas
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:13 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

I don't disagree. My entire analysis is metatextual, as I believe that is where a great part of the artistic value of Evangelion lies. Of course it’s hard to say that she’s really characterized in any way to him, given their total of maybe 5 minutes of screen time together before the ending, but the...
by Jornophelanthas
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

My concern with this reading is that her involvement in the change is purely mechanical , and that it’s not reflected on an emotional level. If we say that the literal act of leaving the minus realm and entering the real world is a metaphor for growing up and moving on from Eva, then Mari’s involve...
by Jornophelanthas
Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:22 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

My argument for Mari being the catalyst for the main characters moving on and breaking the cycle does not stand or fall with the assumption that NGE/EoE constitute previous cycles. Nearly everything Kaworu says in Rebuild supports the theory that the Rebuild continuity is inherently cyclic. However,...
by Jornophelanthas
Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:15 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
Replies: 576
Views: 87303

Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?

If NTE's purpose is to declare that Shinji's relationship with past characters is 'negative' including EVA and it's time to move on, then obviously Mari's existence is the great counter-example. I believe this is close, but not quite there. In my opinion, the negative aspect of Shinji's relationshi...
by Jornophelanthas
Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:30 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE
Replies: 34
Views: 7598

Re: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE

It seems I need to rewatch all those scenes.
by Jornophelanthas
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:15 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE
Replies: 34
Views: 7598

Re: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE

I'm not sure which one of them originally converted the other, but their dialogue on Fuyutsuki's bridge makes it clear that they've been collaborating somehow. My take is that they appeared to share a mutual understanding that they were each game pieces on opposing sides of a board. They both ackno...
by Jornophelanthas
Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:26 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE
Replies: 34
Views: 7598

Re: Breaking the stalemate: Mari's role in NTE

In the final battle, as the bad guys are about to win due to their overwhelming strength and the fact they prepared for it for decades, like in EoE, Mari is the proverbial wrench in their plans by revealing that she turned Fuyutsuki to her side, which gave her the four Adam's Vessels and the means ...
by Jornophelanthas
Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:10 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Mari is not afflicted with the “Curse of Eva”
Replies: 134
Views: 30530

Re: Mari is not afflicted with the “Curse of Eva”

Speaking of clones and memory, there is a peculiar thing about Asuka. Asuka is one of a series of clones of a single original. In her flashback, there is a heavy suggestion that she first awakened in an LCL vat in her current (roughly 14-year-old) body, and was put through rigorous training, competi...
by Jornophelanthas
Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:59 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Gendo Ikari: Eyes and Humanity
Replies: 9
Views: 2656

Re: Gendo Ikari: Eyes and Humanity

Despite Mari in many regards showing herself for what she truly is, it's worth noting that Mari's glasses are sometimes hidden behind a glare just like Gendo, e.g. in her scene with Fuyutsuki where she's fully leaning into the "mysterious past" aspect of her character. Don't forget Mari's...

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