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- Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:07 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The morality of Gendo in NTE
- Replies: 40
- Views: 17265
Re: MariShin discussion general
The act of dying is not a retribution nor a reward in itself. Everyone will eventually die, it's natural. Absolutely, that statement was solely in response to you claiming Gendo got his wish in the end, which he didn't because he died. What is morally charged is how he dies. And he dies a proud, no...
- Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:28 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The morality of Gendo in NTE
- Replies: 40
- Views: 17265
Re: MariShin discussion general
Last time we Gendo in 3.0+1.0 And after this scene, he dies permanently. Your point? You are right that Gendo didn't achieve his goal, this time he got something even better. The movie gave him the chance to do something good for Shinji and to be with Yui one last time. He did not deserve either, a...
- Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:53 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The morality of Gendo in NTE
- Replies: 40
- Views: 17265
Re: MariShin discussion general
Yes it's to me a cardinal sin that Gendo actually accomplished anything redeeming at all. He's a Hitler-tier evil genocider responsible for the death of billions, he deserves nothing and yet he gets totally redeemed by the movie murdering Shinji's character and substituting it with a Jesus-like all...
- Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:23 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The morality of Gendo in NTE
- Replies: 40
- Views: 17265
Re: MariShin discussion general
In my eyes, Shin reuniting the Gendo-Yui-Shinji family for a final happy send-off is insulting to both Shinji and Yui's characters and ethically disgusting. And I'm talking AoT-ending level of ethically disgusting. It's "ethically disgusting" for what reason exactly? Because instead of de...
- Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:38 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: MariShin discussion general
- Replies: 123
- Views: 35284
Re: MariShin discussion general
Unless you count an eternal being having a savior complex for Shinji as gay representation, which I personally don't. So you're referring to Maya then? I mean, if something so secondary made such a difference for you then you'll be happy to hear that not much has changed compared to NGE in this reg...
- Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:42 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: MariShin discussion general
- Replies: 123
- Views: 35284
Re: MariShin discussion general
but even that could just be interpreted as Kensuke being family for Asuka (not really a parent). Perhaps that's a better way to put it, but calling it a parent-child-like relationship isn't far off either. They both might be the same age physically, but the difference in mental maturity is stark. I...
- Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:00 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: MariShin discussion general
- Replies: 123
- Views: 35284
Re: MariShin discussion general
The spacing of the characters in the poster (Mari-Shinji, Gendo-Yui, Misato-Kaji, Toji-Hikari) is indicative of what the pairing are. No amount of poorly hidden backtracking done with extra media and interviews can change what the movie strongly hints. There was no backtracking, unless you consider...
- Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:37 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: I believe Mari is another (guardian) angel figure in Eva
- Replies: 36
- Views: 16139
Re: I believe Mari is another (guardian) angel figure in Eva
1. Overall weaker character development, with the sole exception of Kaworu (and maybe Rei? Not sure on that one). Shikinami is definitely distinct from Sohryu, the most glaring is her much less developed background I wouldn't call Shikinami's background "much" less developed, but she's ce...
- Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:57 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The Curse of Eva....sigh
- Replies: 26
- Views: 15441
Re: The Curse of Eva....sigh
Point is, Anno himself only wants the OG crew to be teens for no good reason. The Evas represent the means used to fulfill one's escapist desires, as well as, ironically, a safe space that will unconditionally protect its pilot like a mother would and act as a band aid for their deepest insecuritie...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:34 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Original Asuka
- Replies: 111
- Views: 33926
Re: Original Asuka
hell, we can't even say for certain that the child in the anti-universe's flashback was indeed her at all (but tbh, I can see it).
Is there any particular reason why you question that?
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:33 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Did original Shikinami split Asuka from the angel?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 11059
Re: Did original Shikinami split Asuka from the angel?
So, Eva-02 is really supporting Eva-13 (apparently due to fear). That's why I think OriAsuka could be inside Eva-02. Interesting, I always thought Unit 02 protected Unit 13 exactly because it had Shikinami's original inside it (this would also be a characteristically smart move by Gendo). I know th...
- Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:01 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9798
Re: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
We also know Failures of Infinity are Eva-01 copies, which implies the Third Impact is still connected to Eva-01.
I agree with almost everything you said, allow me to also add that, the fact that Unit 01 inside the Tesseract in the 3.0 opening is core-ified further supports your interpretation.
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:08 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9798
Re: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
Yes, but we need to factor in the total circumstance. Shinji following orders would result in death and destruction anyway. Every operation of NERV was being driven to that conclusion by Gendo. What Shinji did was an unprecedented event--to everyone but Gendo, who arranged it. To any comparable exa...
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:43 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9798
Re: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
Would any scenario where someone becomes so angry at administering nurses that they plan to hunt them down, rather than the executives, seem at all plausible? Your examples aren't equivalent. Only Gendo is being hunted down and waged war against, Unit 01 didn't malfunction, nor was Shinji just foll...
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:25 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 9798
Re: Did Shinji know saving Rei would trigger 3rd impact?
As it's already been mentioned, he wasn't aware of the results of his actions, because these destructive capabilities of the Evas were never revealed to him or anyone else for that matter except Ritsuko, Gendo, and Fuyutsuki. Because of his mental state and what he says about not caring about the wo...
- Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:25 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: NTE's interpretation of the characters
- Replies: 53
- Views: 24512
Re: NTE's interpretation of the characters
I agree with some of the pacing issues you brought up, however by "lie" I'm mainly referring to one of the general fundamental components of character arcs (such as the "wants", "need", etc.). In the Rebuilds Asuka's "lie" is that she's alone, she will always ...
- Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:00 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: NTE's interpretation of the characters
- Replies: 53
- Views: 24512
Re: NTE's interpretation of the characters
Also, I wouldn't call most of these "arcs". Throwing everything under my face at the last possible second and calling it a day isn't really what I would consider an "arc". They are arcs. Characters went through experiences that made them believe in a lie, and through their later...
- Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:16 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: NTE's interpretation of the characters
- Replies: 53
- Views: 24512
Re: NTE's interpretation of the characters
That's actually a very good point to be made. I do think it's not a problem in first an d third movies, that are centered around Shinji by design. But it's pretty annoying on both HA and Shin, as they try to cover more characters (and in Shin's case, conclude their ""arcs""). Th...
- Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:50 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: NTE's interpretation of the characters
- Replies: 53
- Views: 24512
Re: NTE's interpretation of the characters
Long-haired Rei is one of the many things in the Rebuilds that make me question why the hell they would ever do it that way, because it undercuts literally THE core of ReiQ’s character (that she’s her own individual who just so happens to share a name and face with Rei2) Agreed. I don't think Long ...
- Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:13 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
- Replies: 576
- Views: 98753
Re: How do you feel about Shinji ending up with Mari?
But also in regards to the budding relationship between Rei II and Shinji, this film made it so that not only did he not save the former, but his attempt to do so ended the world. Which changes the whole message to "if you are little more than the object for one to try and escape reality, then...