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- Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:30 am
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: What caused the Angels to start attacking after 15 years?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1918
Re: What caused the Angels to start attacking after 15 years?
The Unit-00 test that left Rei injured. The Angels detected it and thought it was Adam.
- Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:37 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: How do you feel about NTE? + Rank the movies!
- Replies: 330
- Views: 93753
Re: How do you feel about NTE? + Rank the movies!
The thing that really just occurred to me with the fourth film is that I've had zero desire to rewatch it. The first three? Sure, I think about it, just like I think about rewatching the original series. But the fourth film is just... I don't know. I feel like it's so meta that it can't really be en...
- Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:29 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The morality of Gendo in NTE
- Replies: 40
- Views: 16393
Re: The morality of Gendo in NTE
I don't like doing the line-by-line response thing, but I'm going to do it because I have a lot of little points. I had a whole tangent on Seele I ended up cutting out, because I was struggling to get it out without it reading like circuitous reasoning... I'm still struggling a bit, maybe because Se...
- Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:07 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The Apocalyptic Schizoid - Gendo Ikari
- Replies: 2
- Views: 9221
Re: The Apocalyptic Schizoid - Gendo Ikari
It's interesting to read this new topic about exterior-interior-split schizoid Gendo on the heels of reading Axx°N N.'s recent posts struggling with recluse-schmoozer-split mastermind Gendo. I wonder if that struggle can be eased a bit by viewing Gendo through the lens of mental illness in the mann...
- Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:44 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The Apocalyptic Schizoid - Gendo Ikari
- Replies: 2
- Views: 9221
The Apocalyptic Schizoid - Gendo Ikari
There's a tendency in the Evangelion fandom to assign mental conditions and/or personality disorders to the cast of Neon Genesis Evangelion. I won't comment on that for good or ill, but that is the context in which I make this post. And there is one character who, I think, has always gotten an unfai...
- Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:45 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: The morality of Gendo in NTE
- Replies: 40
- Views: 16393
Re: The morality of Gendo in NTE
I think in order to discuss Gendo's morality, you need to nail down the particulars of SEELE's scenario. SEELE were the shot callers, and it appears the Angels were going to come regardless as some sort of cosmic test. Where does Gendo's agency play into things? I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of ...
- Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:38 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: How do you feel about NTE? + Rank the movies!
- Replies: 330
- Views: 93753
Re: How do you feel about NTE? + Rank the movies!
It's absolutely wild that Shinji used the godlike power of the anti-universe and the imaginary Evangelion to... create the modern world circa 2021.
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:22 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Quality of NTE containment thread
- Replies: 398
- Views: 71006
Re: Quality of NTE containment thread
I always thought no one was specifically in control of Kaworu getting shut out, that it happened as some aspect of Shinji deciding to go for the spears. Doesn't really make sense, but it doesn't seem like Shinji was cognizant enough to do something like shutting Kaworu out, and the idea that Gendo p...
- Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:43 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Quality of NTE containment thread
- Replies: 398
- Views: 71006
Re: Quality of NTE containment thread
Aw, fuck. That's pretty cool.
- Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:24 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Quality of NTE containment thread
- Replies: 398
- Views: 71006
Re: What was the point of Mark.06?
Honestly, Commander Nagisa and Vicecommander Kaji are pretty old ideas. I mean, we have hints in the preview at the end of 2.0. Even in the imageboards of an early version of Q also has hints, since Kaji is alive, but he is living in NERV (it's Kaji who shows the destroyed world to Shinji in that v...
- Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:42 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Quality of NTE containment thread
- Replies: 398
- Views: 71006
Re: What was the point of Mark.06?
Merely being able to deduce that it happens during the missing movie doesn’t make it make sense. Why is Kaji in a commanding position at NERV? Hell, why is Kaworu the commander? If you go in knowing what happened, you’d at least know that they removed Gendo and Fuyutsuki from power and led NERV in ...
- Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:59 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: EVA 3.0 Is 10 Years Old!
- Replies: 34
- Views: 11158
Re: EVA 3.0 Is 10 Years Old!
The third Rebuild film is the best of the series. Incredible visuals, mind-blowing sequences, and a score that I'd say is easily some of the best work across the whole franchise (definitely the best score in the Rebuilds as a whole collection.) My personal criticism of the final film is that it is n...
- Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:43 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Quality of NTE containment thread
- Replies: 398
- Views: 71006
Re: Quality of NTE containment thread
It really bothers me more than it should that in 3.33, Gendo talks about actively rewriting SEELE's script and then takes out "SEELE's boy" and SEELE themselves and then the final film is like, oh, yeah, this is all SEELE's plan. 3.33 is filled with this idea that Gendo and SEELE are at od...
- Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:34 pm
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Does Shinji accept Instrumentality in the TV ending? My argument V Contradicting supplementary material
- Replies: 20
- Views: 8804
Re: Does Shinji accept Instrumentality in the TV ending? My argument V Contradicting supplementary material
Shinji accepts Instrumentality in EoTV and rejects it in EOE. This is because the nature of what Instrumentality is has changed between the two releases. In EoTV, instrumentality is done, Gendo won, and Shinji is just along for the ride. The choices he faces are personal choices as to whether accept...
- Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:17 pm
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: I found the answer but..
- Replies: 36
- Views: 8921
Re: I found the answer but..
Building on the stuff about Mari being involved in Yui's disappearance and it leading to her suicide, I'm surprised there's no mention of another jealous character who suicided shortly after Yui's disappearance -- Naoko Akagi. It's not the strongest link but an interesting one. The Sadamoto manga, I...
- Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:34 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: I found the answer but..
- Replies: 36
- Views: 8921
Re: I found the answer but..
This is a really fascinating analysis. There are some elements, such as Unit-00 being a Lilith Eva, that feel like they've been staring us in the face but no one really picked up on (that I'm aware of.) I especially like the stuff about Mari and her relationship to Yui. The thought that Near Third I...
- Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:35 pm
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Seele’s motivation in Ep 24
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3557
Re: Seele’s motivation in Ep 24
In End of Evangelion, SEELE complain about an Eva once again interfering with their plans. To me, that sounds like something that's happened more than once before. Unit 00 disposing of the Lance would probably count as one instance; could Unit 01 killing Kaworu be another? Are there any other insta...
- Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:28 am
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Seele’s motivation in Ep 24
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3557
Re: Seele’s motivation in Ep 24
SEELE sent Kaworu to kill Gendo in a 'two birds, one stone' play. Unfortunately, they didn't count on Kaworu going rogue. The messy nature of Evangelion's production, and the inclusion of additional scenes, make certain parts of this rather obtuse. To drag some posts on a similar topic from a few mo...
- Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:06 am
- Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
- Topic: Is it reasonable to believe that people would blame Shinji for 3I?
- Replies: 99
- Views: 21775
Re: Is it reasonable to believe that people would blame Shinji for 3I?
Just because someone puts a gun in your hands (Gendo), and just because your superior officer is cheering you on (Misato), you're still responsible -- even if not in a legal or lawful sense -- if you pull the trigger, perhaps especially so if you do it while screaming you don't care what'll happen t...
- Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:31 am
- Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
- Topic: Why did SEELE send Kaworu to Terminal Dogma? And a few questions on the Angels' purpose
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7069
Re: Why did SEELE send Kaworu to Terminal Dogma? And a few questions on the Angels' purpose
It's actually really obvious. SEELE tells Kaworu that Adam's body lies within Gendo. At this point, SEELE and Gendo are butting heads (Gendo has thrown the Lance into space, something which Fuyutsuki said would displease SEELE.) SEELE think Angels want to make contact with Adam and have told Kaworu...