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by eldomtom2
Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:13 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 14
Views: 10124

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

What? How are the claimed events not censorship?
Nonetheless, I hardly find this a dubious claim when such interference had precedent in the case of Toji.

So non-dubious not a single primary source said anything even remotely hinting at it.
by eldomtom2
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 14
Views: 10124

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

No, it explicitly states they were censored. ...the network staff demanded to see the storyboards for the next two episodes. Since the storyboards they were then shown were the two episodes which ended up in EoE, it’s no surprise that the network execs told Gainax that they were having a bleedin’ bu...
by eldomtom2
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 14
Views: 10124

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

Hmmm I remember there are a lot of sources regarding this and I could never quite be completely sure regarding the production of ep 25 and 26 from a business standpoint. I have never found a single primary source, or someone repeating that they heard from one, saying that they were censored. Regard...
by eldomtom2
Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 14
Views: 10124

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

No, I'm fairly positive he was peddling it on the mailing list. Someone respected who lived in Japan and translated stuff did, anyway. And the article on the Netflix translation of Kaworu's lines directly quotes an obviously bullshit explanation of the production of episodes 25 and 26 (it mentions t...
by eldomtom2
Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 14
Views: 10124

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

FelipeFritschF#891333 wrote:and we still owe a large part of supplemental material to them.

And a great deal of misinformation, if I'm correct in thinking that he was one of the people peddling the "Evangelion was censored" bullshit - lies still repeated in Evageeks articles made this year!
by eldomtom2
Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The Curse of Eva - Can It Be Broken?
Replies: 19
Views: 11906

Re: The Curse of Eva - Can It Be Broken?

The curse of Eva is rather blatantly a rehash of the whole Oedipus complex and dependence on the mother stuff, even though the rest of that seems to have been entirely ditched except for Shinji.
by eldomtom2
Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Evangelion 3.0+1.0 [SPOILERS]
Topic: The Vatican Treaty is still in effect.
Replies: 12
Views: 8802

Re: The Vatican Treaty is still in effect.

That assumes this is more than a throwaway line.
by eldomtom2
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

When you're doing the sort of "callbacks" that Rebuild has done, it goes from "hah, neat" to "what are you trying to say?".
by eldomtom2
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

"They're callbacks and references" only goes so far, especially when they're callbacks to the original version of a work.
by eldomtom2
Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Adams, Children, and the Nature of the Cycle
Replies: 73
Views: 28381

Re: Adams, Children, and the Nature of the Cycle

Lore is not what people are talking about when they say that the Rebuilds lack depth.
by eldomtom2
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

Further thoughts: The unique spelling of Evangelion is only for the first three Rebuilds' titles , right? So it has to be referring to Evangelion the work, not Evangelion the mecha, as some non-time loop theories suggest. Also, the English titles as seen in the Rebuilds' "commercial breaks"...
by eldomtom2
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

It make no reference at all to the series, which is what you have been trying to link a time loop to. And in any case, there are other explanations which have been proposed and discussed. The spelling revert, the repeat sign, and "+1.0" are all hinting at something , and I can't see what ...
by eldomtom2
Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:15 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

You say many, yet so far, I only recall the one beginning/ending shot you've referred to. Care to mention all the others, and why a time loop is what they're pointing towards? Kaworu's lines. Those massive chalk outlines. The blood stain on the Moon. Probably more that I'm forgetting. And lest we f...
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

I have to keep repeating this same basic point - Watsonian explanations are not Doylist explanations. You have to explain why so many hints that seem to be pointing to a time loop more than anything else were put in if the actual reason was something completely different.
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

There are narrative explanations, perhaps, but again that doesn't explain why they're there in the first place.
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

None of the explanations explain why the "evidence" is there though except for a brief line about "homages".
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:09 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

You misunderstand me. In my eyes the Rebuilds involving a time loop would be them going back and tainting the original.
by eldomtom2
Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

I’d prefer it if you didn’t cast aspersions on my motivations. I don’t want a time loop, but to me everything points to it.
by eldomtom2
Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:00 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

Probably to quickly get across to the audience that something is very very wrong with this setting if the oceans are red They could have done that in an exact recreation of the original opening. How about because they're different stories ? A fact which is more and more apparent as the films procee...
by eldomtom2
Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:59 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 19319

Re: The idea of a timeloop

Something being similar to a previous version of a story is not necessarily an allusion; it can can perfectly well be simply just that - similar. And the reason may be no more than that the same artist often continues using some of the same techniques - maybe even with a deliberate wink! No, the al...

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