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by eldomtom2
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: Evangelion 3.0+1.0 [SPOILERS]
Topic: EVANGELION:3.333 discussion thread
Replies: 404
Views: 28736

Re: EVANGELION:3.333 discussion thread

Mr. M#905962 wrote:Timeloop will not happen.

Why not? Assuming it's a "recreation of the universe" type thing. Obviously the Rebuilds aren't a sequel in the sense of taking place directly after EoE on the same Earth.
by eldomtom2
Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:35 pm
Forum: Evangelion 3.0+1.0 [SPOILERS]
Topic: EVANGELION:3.333 discussion thread
Replies: 404
Views: 28736

Re: EVANGELION:3.333 discussion thread

It's the same as it was because there's a time loop going on. Either that or it's in Instrumentality.
by eldomtom2
Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:11 pm
Forum: Evangelion 3.0+1.0 [SPOILERS]
Topic: Evangelion:3.0+1.0 Trailer 3 Discussion
Replies: 299
Views: 28330

Re: Evangelion:3.0+1.0 Trailer 3 Discussion

As I’ve said before, JJ is more concerned about short-term audience reaction than he is long-term character development. Anno strikes me as being the exact opposite. Anno prepares a convoluted narrative eagerly waiting to drop that second shoe (AKA, setup and payoff), whereas JJ will create a convo...
by eldomtom2
Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:22 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Antisemitism tangent (split from Kaworu return thread)
Replies: 21
Views: 1735

Re: Antisemitism tangent (split from Kaworu return thread)

(I should add that Anno's definitely not the idiot sort of nationalist, not a war crime denier, for instance- otherwise we wouldn't have gotten EoE depicting the JSDF as fanatic thugs casually murdering noncombatants to make a point about human depravity.) The J S SDF (the addition of "Strateg...
by eldomtom2
Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: Everything Else Evangelion
Topic: Schizo and Parano Evangelion transcript (and translation?)
Replies: 3
Views: 3373

Re: Schizo and Parano Evangelion transcript (and translation?)

A bit of a longshot to ask for this, but can you transcribe page 96 of Schizo?
by eldomtom2
Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:48 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Gendo's silent line: new theory
Replies: 60
Views: 17622

Re: Gendo's silent line: new theory

While my understanding of the Japanese animation process is limited, if it’s anything like the American animation process then there are a multitude of directors that approves the animation for various stages. Some Animation Directors have been known to draw keyframes themselves, and even some Chie...
by eldomtom2
Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Gendo's silent line: new theory
Replies: 60
Views: 17622

Re: Gendo's silent line: new theory

What battle sounds outside? The draft EoE script explicitly that Gendo's words should be inaudible due to "an explosion or something". Also, speaking of directors, Anno was still chief director over Air. People tend to forget that many animated films have multiple directors, and that many...
by eldomtom2
Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:30 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Gendo's silent line: new theory
Replies: 60
Views: 17622

Re: Gendo's silent line: new theory

Okay, since we’re doing this, here are my thoughts on the issue: First of all, we’re chasing the wrong rabbit. We notice a muted line of Gendo, and we’re all “OMG! A SILENT LINE! EVA IS SO MYSTERIOUS. I MUST SOLVE THIS.” But we’re missing the forest for the trees when we do that. Yes, Gendo’s line ...
by eldomtom2
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Apostles?
Replies: 20
Views: 14313

Re: Apostles?

Yes, we know that Anno was apparently very insistent on "children" despite attempts by Michael House to convince him otherwise.
by eldomtom2
Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:13 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 15
Views: 13973

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

What? How are the claimed events not censorship?
Nonetheless, I hardly find this a dubious claim when such interference had precedent in the case of Toji.

So non-dubious not a single primary source said anything even remotely hinting at it.
by eldomtom2
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 15
Views: 13973

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

No, it explicitly states they were censored. ...the network staff demanded to see the storyboards for the next two episodes. Since the storyboards they were then shown were the two episodes which ended up in EoE, it’s no surprise that the network execs told Gainax that they were having a bleedin’ bu...
by eldomtom2
Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 15
Views: 13973

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

Hmmm I remember there are a lot of sources regarding this and I could never quite be completely sure regarding the production of ep 25 and 26 from a business standpoint. I have never found a single primary source, or someone repeating that they heard from one, saying that they were censored. Regard...
by eldomtom2
Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 15
Views: 13973

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

No, I'm fairly positive he was peddling it on the mailing list. Someone respected who lived in Japan and translated stuff did, anyway. And the article on the Netflix translation of Kaworu's lines directly quotes an obviously bullshit explanation of the production of episodes 25 and 26 (it mentions t...
by eldomtom2
Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Value of the various subtitle translations
Replies: 15
Views: 13973

Re: Value of the various subtitle translations

FelipeFritschF#891333 wrote:and we still owe a large part of supplemental material to them.

And a great deal of misinformation, if I'm correct in thinking that he was one of the people peddling the "Evangelion was censored" bullshit - lies still repeated in Evageeks articles made this year!
by eldomtom2
Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The Curse of Eva - Can It Be Broken?
Replies: 20
Views: 14557

Re: The Curse of Eva - Can It Be Broken?

The curse of Eva is rather blatantly a rehash of the whole Oedipus complex and dependence on the mother stuff, even though the rest of that seems to have been entirely ditched except for Shinji.
by eldomtom2
Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Evangelion 3.0+1.0 [SPOILERS]
Topic: The Vatican Treaty is still in effect.
Replies: 12
Views: 10983

Re: The Vatican Treaty is still in effect.

That assumes this is more than a throwaway line.
by eldomtom2
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 87
Views: 26210

Re: The idea of a timeloop

When you're doing the sort of "callbacks" that Rebuild has done, it goes from "hah, neat" to "what are you trying to say?".
by eldomtom2
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 87
Views: 26210

Re: The idea of a timeloop

"They're callbacks and references" only goes so far, especially when they're callbacks to the original version of a work.
by eldomtom2
Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Adams, Children, and the Nature of the Cycle
Replies: 106
Views: 53780

Re: Adams, Children, and the Nature of the Cycle

Lore is not what people are talking about when they say that the Rebuilds lack depth.

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