Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.That's another topic that came from my dirty mind after i posted a topic a out 'How much does Shinji fantasies Asuka'.But still I have some questions that I will like to put that I can't there and I think would be good for discussion since I can't find any topic related to this.sighh.

These are few points i made from which I think he might be afraid of sex.

1).Zoom of Asuka's Lip,hip, chest but and abdomen etc etc.In second interaction of Asuka and Shinji in episode 26'(eoe)(Post- intrumentality).
The scene could have been interpreted as simple as sexual frustration or maybe dehumanisation but few things that bother me.

Asuka's whole body is shown in red colour palette,As I said in my that topic red colour pallete is used to show danger,pain,fear and death.Best example of this colour pallete is When dummy system is launched into the unit 01.The colour pallete of unit 01 changes from purple to red.And we know what happens after.(Though red colour could have mean her anger,But I think showing whole body in that isn't to show anger).

And then Shinji's body language when the show is going on.His hand hangs dead,Meaning either big wave of shame or fear.Then his face is shown strained,fearful and shameful like he hates him watching her like that or he will die.Yet his eyes or on her.... Chest or anything.

And from here it actually looks like he is very very uncomfortable with his sexual part of attraction.
2).Kiss scene.We know during kiss scene Shinji didn't accepted Asuka's offer immediately rather she has manuplate(she thinks he is willing to do that because he tried before,sighhhh)him by questioning his manliness or wimp.
When she asks solid black lines paper on his cheeks which means again fear and he says "No".Though he agreed and then flustered a bit.

3).Then he REJECTED Misato in episode 23.Sighhh I know why he rejected, because he emotionally thinks of her as a mother figure,but I thought why not including this too.
However there are contradictions.
1).He saw never shook his gaze of Asuka and Misato whenever they show him what they wanted and maybe he wanted.
2). According to Asuka he has fantasies of he and quite often(which i doubt).
3).Erection in last scene of episode 10 which got unnoticed by himself.
4).He tried to kiss Asuka in episode 9.

And finally what's bothering me now?

Problem is that his fanatsies but the second interaction(in eoe) shows a different story
After deep analysis you can see that Shinji is not very comfortable with sexual part(shown like that) and we know whatever shown there is indeed is Shinji's view of point and it's his heart and mentality.Anotyer thing is I don't think I am over analysing anything here.He is indeed uncomfortable or maybe very very shameful that I mistaken for uncomfortable.But then we get to know he fantasies her.Which means he shouldn't be afraid of that mentally.

Another case can be wanting sex(any action) but afraid of intimacy.But the problem is the scene is mentioned(in eoe) is totally about his sexual part(of attraction)and it has nothing to do with intimacy,And that's where the bother starts.


Though if you will read about how Shinji 5 major disorders and trauma can harm is sexuality to a large extent.You may think it is valid

Though that's max I can say so I hope if you read this you can post your views or either correct me.I will appreciate that.

Well, I always thought that Shinji was afraid of connection in general - all of it, including sex! I think your identification of Asuka's colour palette invoking fear is pretty poignant, but to me I always thought the red of her plugsuit and Eva were supposed to symbolise her power and strength as a pilot.

Gender in Eva is I think a lot more nuanced than most people want to admit. I think Eva wants to make a point on gender roles not being as cut and dry as they might otherwise appear - for example, Asuka is for the majority of the show, the strongest and most skilled pilot. You're also definitely right about Asuka manipulating Shinji through questioning masculinity - it seems to me like Asuka tries to chase Shinji in this manner because she is insecure about appearing more "masculine" and this is her way of trying to reinforce the gender roles expected of her. So, I feel this informs a lot of Asuka's actions; rather than acting out of genuine attraction to Shinji, she is doing these things performatively.

As for Shinji. Shinji may be afraid of sex as you've stated; he does reject any explicitly sexual advances that anyone makes throughout the show, of any sort. But I do have two more things to ask you about this; how does Shinji react to connection outside of sex? He also rejects a lot of this. Very rarely do people make physical contact with Shinji outside of the sexual contact we see. The examples I can think of involving someone deliberately touching Shinji in the original show are few and far between - Rei slapping Shinji, Kaworu touching Shinji's hand, and Misato reaching for (in ep23) and pushing him into the elevator (and, uh, the kiss.) are the few that come to mind. My point being, few people touch Shinji and this might lead to hesitance when it comes to further touch.

My other point of contention... you gotta remember, Shinji is 14 years old. Were you scared of sex at 14? Had someone else wanted to kiss you or possibly more, would you have reacted well? Many 14 year olds don't, and they definitely shouldn't be. While, yes, sex was included in Eva to show it as a normal part of adult life, that doesn't mean Shinji, a child, should be 100% on board with having lots of it. That maturity often isn't there until you're an adult, instrumentality be damned. I really don't mean to be pedantic or dismissive here, but I feel a lot of people DO forget that the pilots are kids. They are 14, and all the things that come with that. It may really just be a depiction of a normal part of development, mixed with the hesitance of Shinji being afraid of being hurt by any connection, that leads to what you're seeing here.

nearsecondimpact(sorry this saves time).

So i don't think I am wrong though you can also be right as Evangelion is a series with multiple interpretations for a single scene.
I actually mentioned red colour pallete because i didn't got much of that 'why?' . Because showing her face in red is something I can say that yesssssss! The red colour means she is either angry !or her dominance! or they are out of sync(Red and blue)!.But showing the body in red colour pallete is something requires a higher level of interpretation or understanding(Unless it is over-interpretation ,so please if someone wise is reading they can comment and disprove me ).Because red colour pallete on her body,Does it wants to show anger in her body? Does it want to show her body is dominant?Or does it wants to show that her sexual part of attraction is dominant(nope it is Shinji's view)? Either way purple is the colour which symbolises power and dominance in Evangelion rather than red(Until it is something other colour and I am commenting like a fool ).
And showing her body in red is related to her eva plug suit? That also doesn't makes sense as i said if only her face was shown in that colour then I could have said that.
And also why I am so so eager a out this pallete is because it's application(Feelings of danger)matches that of his own body language during scene and also psyco factors.I.e the feelings of 'Danger' due to his trauma.

I think Shinji is not afraid of act but rather different aspects which scene in itself can't depict completely .
(This gets seperated)
Or another thing is that he feels extreme guilt or prolonged guilt for days.As psychologically it is very possible (As we know even in deleted scene where he will masturbate on her thoughts,He still gets guilty even when he doesn't do on her and according to that scene it looks like he really don't want to sexualise,though i don't remember in which disorder this happens
Though it also gets kind of Contradicted as according to main series Shinji umm......do his things as habit acc. To Asuka which i doubt due to barrage of reason but also can't deny due to few powerfull points).As it also matches my view like i actually get intrusive sexual thoughts that many times gives me a wave of guilt.Shinji can also feel that as he repress his sexual part so much that even a us viewers can't guess that until eoe,**heh.we know how rotten his views are of sex.***

Sighh now what am I missing(what a irony what shit i didn't said) ..
Oh yeah my last guess(yup these are guesses).

Shinji might be afraid of Rejection,Emotional vulnerability,Losing control,Being seen and still unloved,And discovering he is not a man(I mean not being enough,You can understand,heh),hurting other.

Mmmmhhhhhhhhhh.So I guess he is rather afraid of the aspects of it.So needle again comes back to intimacy.

And for his age according to you,I agree with you sir!But I am sorry if I am that bad at explaining because my main focus is not the scenes in the series NGE but the scene i mentioned in EOE... . And why I am so bother by it is because it shows his mentality of how he really sees his sexual part of attraction and I don't think it is pleasant for him.Just like at kitchen scene shows his mentality(at that moment) that he wants destruction of those who hurt him.
Another thing is people can actually be afraid of actual sexual encounter,where I agree with you actually.But we are for now rather watching an introspection rather than the act.And an introspection gives a pure view.The scene I am so concentrating is his *view* on his sexual part of attraction not the act where he can cringe.
People can have rotten views.I had rotten views of sex But wasn't afraid about thinking it.Shinji is watching body of Asuka.Which is not a act.But the problem is that why is he uncomfortable even in that part of watching her?
As i said guilt can also a major reason.
(Sigh another random case that just came in my mind).
He don't like his sexual part (which matches mine).Or Simply he doesn't like sexualising women.Asuka is the one he .ight feel guilty for sexualising.Yup that can be a case,but just a case.Dont take this seriously.

And I think she rather wants umm mixed thing through kiss.Or Simply the kiss is a mix.First she wants to tell Shinji unintentionally that she likes or loves him.Then she is 'using' Shinji to validate herself as a replacement of Kaji(come on she changes completely when Kaji comes).Then what you said might be another reason.Then she is trying to man up Shinji for herself at the same time.Then she .ight be experimenting it.So yeah for me,most of important scenes are indeed a mix.


Though another thing i found due to your comment is Kowuru touching him.Though he really tried to be sexually apart from him(Another thing is according to Anno He is not blushing) but doesn't cringe on his touch like he does to Misato because either he doesn't trust her or she is a mother figure or he feels safe around Kowuru.
Biggest example is Kissing Asuka in episode 9.He first proceeds to kiss her but when things comes to intimacy he retracts quickly.

Indeed Shinji has sexual desire but I don't understand what actually bothers him(Though I made few guesses myself).


And for how Shinji reacts to touch outside of sex.Its something I don't remember correctly.But if I am correct I think he actually tries but his tries are not good enough.He usually retracts from further intimacy.Episdoe 9 a good example.The only good and deep connection he has is Misato which didn't appeared to be a doll in sand box scene(maybe) but still a far figure.Is Shinji that afraid of ambiguity that he don't navigate it at all.Not quite true.Shinji has hard time putting his strength to actually reach out someone.For example trying to comforting Asuka in episode 22'.People might consider it just a failure but in my eyes(I am socially not much developed and have social anxiety which is uncontrollable most of the time) he is getting out of his shell.In previous episode he refuses to even try but here atleast he tried maybe because he might feel that owes to Asuka or he just cares about her.He tries to sympathize with Asuka which is another try to navigate ambiguity but again the try is not good.One example can be if I am correct from episode 12.
"Asuka:“That's not impressive! Isn't that great? Such words of praise for you! I'm going on ahead, idiot!”"
Asuka is angry because of Shinji's increase in sync rate.

"Shinji (OFF):“I can understand that. Getting praised like earlier doesn't make me all that happy either. All it does is make Asuka angry.”"
Shinji knows his growth in sync rate is problematic A+S relation.
"RADIO:“from "Mr. Wah" of Tokyo-2. But you know, don't get all sulky because you got dumped by a girl.”"
Extras.Radio tells what is he feeling after her rejection.

So he might have asks partially for navigating ambiguity or understanding her.“Why do you pilot eva”.

But still he fails to have deep connection like others.

I have a theory that Shinji is attracted to anything with a female reproductive organ and blood flowing through it. And damn, by the end of the anime, the first need was ignored. I don't think he's afraid per se; perhaps the idea of ​​emotional connection that's present in the sexual act terrifies him a little.

I always got the impression that Shinji was sexually repressed most of his life, like he repressed it or whomever he lived with before repressed it for him, maybe for religious reasons.

But I think another issue is he wasn't raised around women, and maybe he was homeschooled? Perhaps Misato is the first woman he's gotten to actually know?

The final issue, I think he thinks sexual shit is beneath him, like that's something only other people do.Like I honest to God think that the hospital scene is the first time he ever touched himself, or at the very least the first time since moving in with Misato that he masturbated.

I know that there were drafts of scripts where Shinji masturbated during the TV show, but those weren't what were put on screen.

ChaddyManPrime#945432 wrote:.


The final issue, I think he thinks sexual shit is beneath him, like that's something only other people do.Like I honest to God think that the hospital scene is the first time he ever touched himself, or at the very least the first time since moving in with Misato that he masturbated.

Though I can agree with everything but why do you think that he first masturbated in hospital scene?When Asuka says “so do it like you always” where Asuka had just touched the topic of hospital scene and reverts back and solely concentrates on his sexual fantasies for her?She specifically states through that,Shinji has something for her but is afraid.According to Asuka Shinji might be frequent.

Though i accept with that “or at the very least the first time since moving in with Misato that he masturbated”..
Because that's something I also thought.The way he handled his libido in episode 10.Where he himself doesn't know that he has a bonner.That should be something new as how clumsy he is with it.

As just see how he ignores every girl completely except Asuka and Rei.He is specifically attracted to Asuka.



And also @IpPo2911.I hope you have read my post about hospital scene.The first need was just too fucked up to called anything.because one cannot know how automated the act was but I am sure it's less than 50% or 40% by any means.(Sighh simply your way of putting words is taking out the severity).

And also being 14 year old it's not bad to fantasies a girl you like.Its very very common in teens around 14.

And also he is afraid of that Emotional elements but there more things that and most of them arise from self doubt.For example “Will i be in controle?”,“i will hurt her”,“am i enough”,“she will reject me I am not enough ” etc.

And people like Shinji are usually afraid from sex.I think they feel like jumping in water without knowing how to swim.
(Also Asuka should also be afraid of sex but I think she has her older thingi to become 'adult').

But I think Shinji might be afraid is severe.Like:-


1). Physics intimacy.Showing his body in a Sexual act.“will i be enough” “will she like me” “am i beautiful”. Like something like this but more moderately severe(judging from his past).

2).Fear of rejection.Like do I need to explain.

3).fear of losing emotional controle.He might fear more and more as much as intimacy he gets.And the problem is that this fear is usually out of control and can only be helped by therapy(or maybe self therapy,like i don't know I did something like that challenging myself to talk to others)which Shinji lacked at that time.

4).a).fear of hurting is one of the most dominant traits here.As I know if he gets a chance for intimacy he might be either very soft or over caring or very reluctant.As anno states in the lyrics of orignal komm Susser Tod where he is beating himself for hurting Asuka “I am afraid of hurting others than hurting myself.” .

b).fear of losing control which stems from fear of hurting others.he might be afraid of losing controle and hurting Asuka.Which he did in hospital scene where his mental state is in very bad shape.He is close to being catatonic if neglected as much as Asuka was neglected by Misato.



5)fear of moral guilt can be a factor to.As we already know that Shinji has a poignant view of sex.And he kind a feels shameful with his male gaze(scene where we see zoom outs of Asuka's femine body).As his expressions were not even close to being comfortable.Meaning he hates himself for watching Asuka with such gaze(i will suggest you to re watch that scene and infer his reaction). Because having a a contradicting inner world,which is at war wit himself.It should be plausible to think that he might feel guilty maybe.But I think this is also very curable of the partner is supportive.

Kharis1212 wrote:

ChaddyManPrime#945432#945432 wrote:.


The final issue, I think he thinks sexual shit is beneath him, like that's something only other people do.Like I honest to God think that the hospital scene is the first time he ever touched himself, or at the very least the first time since moving in with Misato that he masturbated.

Though I can agree with everything but why do you think that he first masturbated in hospital scene?When Asuka says “so do it like you always” where Asuka had just touched the topic of hospital scene and reverts back and solely concentrates on his sexual fantasies for her?She specifically states through that,Shinji has something for her but is afraid.According to Asuka Shinji might be frequent.

Though i accept with that “or at the very least the first time since moving in with Misato that he masturbated”..
Because that's something I also thought.The way he handled his libido in episode 10.Where he himself doesn't know that he has a bonner.That should be something new as how clumsy he is with it.

As just see how he ignores every girl completely except Asuka and Rei.He is specifically attracted to Asuka.

Oh I think he's always had the fantasies, like we see when he is absorbed in Unit 01 but I don't think he actually masturbated.

@ChaddyManPrime your view really metches mine.I remember there was a post on twitter which is gone which said “Shinji wanted to dissolve with the trinity” calling it Mysoginy which is a interpretation but again they usually don't show that Mysoginy by a secondary or replaceable lense.

And to just avoid some trouble I will quote words from my own post from “Does Shinji likes Asuka”.Which I made by me but polished in grammer by the Premium version of Chat GPT(Wel these are very handy).


“Episode 20’s “trinity” / “become one with me” sequence is not best read as a literal catalogue of Shinji’s private mstrb*tion targets, but as an Instrumentality / Yui-mediated projection that borrows familiar faces to stage his inner conflict. In other words, the film uses the faces of Rei, Misato and the others as avatars inside a symbolic, amplified montage — the scene manifests Shinji’s sx**l frustration and longing in metaphor, not a shot-by-shot record of whom he jerks off to. That fits how Evangelion visualizes interior life elsewhere: for example Shinji’s “Enemy — enemy — enemy must be destroyed” moment is immediately followed by a sequence of him stabbing a shamshell that functions as a stand-in for Gendo (the manga even makes that substitution explicit,where Shinji stabes Gendo and blood splutters from him); the image is a symbolic enactment of projection by yui of his hate, not a literal shell. By the same logic, the trinity images are projections built on preexisting feelings and frustrations. At age 14 sx**l frustration is developmentally normal and should be important on a medical basis, and since Shinji increasingly desexualizes mother-figures like Misato, the idea that the show meant to depict straightforward mstrb*tion to “mother” images is less convincing than the psychological/projection reading.”