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Postby AWinters » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:41 pm

In the 21st episode, the Geofront is revealed to Fuyutsuki as something they uncovered that was preserved that way.
Could it be (figuratively or literally) the Garden of Eden?

Maybe the black moon was the garden that humans were banished from so long ago.

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Postby Blockio » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:12 pm

This is one of those cases where I feel like there's a divide between out of universe themes and in-universe lore; out of universe (if my admittedly somewhat shaky memory of ep 21 is not failing me), it makes sense for the Black Moon to be figurative for the Garden of Eden in some capacity, but in-universe I think that would be pushing the interpetation a bit far
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Postby AWinters » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am

Are there any previously discussed explanations for how perfectly landscaped the Geofront was? It seems to be presented as a long forgotten paradise.

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Postby Blockio » Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:52 pm

Geofront is stated pretty early on to be manmade
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Postby Mr. Tines » Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:22 pm

The early introduction is "this is our secret base"; the reveal comes a lot later

Episode 21 wrote:FUYUTSUKI:“What is this?”
IKARI (OFF):“A cavern left behind by someone, who was not us. Though eighty-nine percent of it is buried.”


but it is likely that the parklands and gardens surrounding the NERV pyramid were planted when the underground base was being established within the FAR artifact.
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Postby gelflinghand » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:03 pm

The landscaping would be recent, but if Lilith has been there the whole time, then yes, the Geofront is where the first humans were created, and they could well remember it as a paradise after they were sent out to populate the rest of the planet.

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Postby AWinters » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:12 pm

The further thought occurs that they set up base at ground zero of mankind and called it "Project Eden". It seems to be recognised as a figurative or literal Eden in universe.

The landscaping and building being their own work makes sense though. It should have occurred to me that if they'd had time to start the buildings they would have had time for gardening too. :facepalm:

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Postby 2Lacissal2 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:04 am

I wouldn’t say humans were created in the Geofront. The themes of evolution running through Eva and the section on Lilith in the Classified Information implies there’s a sort of pre-programmed evolution going on, that Lilith releasing the primordial soup of LCL will inevitably develop into Lilin to receive FAR souls. I don’t think vegetation would grow naturally in the Geofront without the light reflectors/condensers they’ve constructed.

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Postby sithsauron » Wed Dec 28, 2022 10:44 pm

Perhaps the garden of eden was the south pole where Adam was found rendered inert by the Lance of longinus after first impact and got frozen over due to climate change

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Postby jimmyanderson2023 » Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:44 pm

It is a pleasure to meet all of you. I am new here. The reason I'm here is because I'm watching Garden of Eden. I love it.

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Postby Kendrix » Sat Mar 11, 2023 9:49 am

That line in ep 21 is the closest the show comes to explicitly confirming/mentioning the precursors/FAR.
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Postby Asugran233 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:46 pm

View Original PostBlockio wrote:This is one of those cases where I feel like there's a divide between out of universe themes and in-universe lore; out of universe (if my admittedly somewhat shaky memory of ep 21 is not failing me), it makes sense for the Black Moon to be figurative for the Garden of Eden in some capacity, but in-universe I think that would be pushing the interpetation a bit far


As we know from the Bible, God created Adam and Eve. However, later the devil in the form of a snake on legs told Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, she with Adam ate and everything fell apart.

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Postby Asunji_Yuko » Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:04 pm

View Original PostAWinters wrote:In the 21st episode, the Geofront is revealed to Fuyutsuki as something they uncovered that was preserved that way.
Could it be (figuratively or literally) the Garden of Eden?

Maybe the black moon was the garden that humans were banished from so long ago.


Hm.....I think there isn't really such a place in NGE. Humans weren't ever really banned from the black moon, they and all other life on Earth just originated from there.

I know all of the religious ideas are applied rather loosely but there isn't really an equivalent to humanity's fall from paradise i.e. Eden, it's something they were born with from the beginning (the fruit of knowledge, i.e. guile and intelligence) rather than a choice someone made.


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