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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:08 pm

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I bet Shinji could give Shammy the wammy if he were allowed to pilot Unit 00, he'd probably bond better with the shard of Lilith than Rei.


And EVA 00 would not try to eat him like in canon because why?
Of course they could cancel the freeze order just that once.

Of course, from Ramiel onward they could conceivably just send the girls. Rei would take a lot of punishment, Asuka would maybe at first feel less threatened (because the noob winning the day would be like - a one or two time arnomaly that rendered the EVA unusable), though later on it would probably happen like what amitakatok described.it all depends.

Alternatively: Would Asuka just end up falling in that Volcano?
Rei would be benched for a while after Ramiel esp. if no one gets her out of that plug. They might have to thaw out the third one waaaay ahead of schedule.

would Shinji even be as useful without most of the limited experience he accumulated? though Yui would certainly be able to pwn the angels as long as they stick the correct kid in the pilot seat.


Okay fine if you want to try to use logic, switch out the core for unit 01's, have them switch it back in when it gets closer to 3rd impact time.
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Postby Kendrix » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:31 pm

Would that be different enough to be fun?


I don't mean to flat out shoot down the idea, just bring up possible considerations that could of course be handwaved away in the name of cool.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:56 pm

View Original PostKendrix wrote:Would that be different enough to be fun?


I don't mean to flat out shoot down the idea, just bring up possible considerations that could of course be handwaved away in the name of cool.


Okay, if you just want rule of cool shit, have Shinji with or without Unit 01's core bond with Lilith. Have Lilith's vessel act as Shinji's new Unit. Repurpose Lilith's body, give her armor or not, I wouldn't mind having a GNS running around beating the shit out of Angels.

Lilith vs Adamites round 2, ding ding.
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Postby Archer » Sat May 15, 2021 3:20 am

This is an idea I came up with in the "Yui's an evil bitch" thread, which can basically be summed up as, "What if Evangelion was a played-straight shonen mecha anime?"

The story background is the same: Angels attack, Seele instrumentality plan, Shinji gets called in because he's uniquely qualified to pilot Unit-01 for reasons. However, the point of divergence from Evangelion is that Evas are made from soul imprints, which means that Yui and Asuka's mom are both still alive. This, naturally, has some pretty far-reaching implications on the other characters, which can be mostly summed up as "everybody isn't nearly as fucked-up as they are in the show".

Gendo undergoes the biggest change: instead of being a crazy person who wants to bring his wife back from the dead, now his primary motivation is to ensure a safe future for his family by eliminating the threat of the angels and sabotaging Seele's plans for instrumentality, by any means necessary. From Shinji's perspective, he'll still seem somewhat cold and distant, especially when he sends Shinji off to some boarding school far away from Tokyo-3, but he really just doesn't want Shinji anywhere near this conflict and a lot of his apparent coldness just stems from a lack of social skills and an inability to more closely relate to/connect with his son. While he might have trouble expressing it sometimes, there will be zero doubt that he loves his family and will do anything for them.

Yui will be the one who calls for Shinji to pilot, because she knows that he's the only one that can do it (for reasons that will be elaborated on later). She's more willing to put him in harm's way (as opposed to Gendo who doesn't want Shinji anywhere NEAR the Eva program) but it's because she believes that her son has what it takes to save the world. Where Gendo is over-protective of Shinji almost to a fault, Yui might seem a little TOO eager to get him in the pilot seat.

Shinji will be more like his manga counterpart. He's still kinda shy and soft-spoken, but he's generally just more of a normal teenager with normal teenager problems and normal degrees of teen angst, especially regarding his cold and distant father who Shinji thinks doesn't love him, because why else would you ship your kid to a boarding school on the other side of the country when they're like 8 years old? This is intensified once he gets to Tokyo-3 and sees his parents basically treating Rei like an adopted daughter while he got sent way. But yeah, main gist is he has a similar personality but isn't severely emotionally crippled and is generally able to interact with others in a healthy manner.

Asuka, like Shinji, will mostly keep her personality, just toned down significantly. Her mom is a workaholic who rarely has time for her, so she retains some of her attention-seeking behavior. Like in NGE, she gets selected to be a pilot at a young age and has been in training for the longest.

Rei I would be re-written to satisfy some plot requirements. The Ayanami series was nominally created (like in the show, from a hybrid of Yui and Lilith's DNA) as an experiment in creating artificial Eva pilots, but are really a contingency plan by Gendo & Yui to act as their own impact trigger if they're unable to stop Seele any other way. Or... something of that sort, the why isn't that important. Rei I is the first, and would have appeared to be around 16-18 years old when Shinji was a child. She would've lived with the Ikari's, and basically would've acted like Shinji's older sister. And this kinda leads into the next big change:

Unit-01: Contains Rei I's real soul (Unit-00, which she tested with initially, contains an imprint of her own soul). Because Unit-01 and Rei I were both grown from Lilith, an unforeseen reaction occurred during a contact experiment with Unit-01 which resulted in her getting absorbed into Unit-01. Shinji was there to witness it, but he either buried these memories or they were erased by NERV. It's immediately after this event that he gets shipped out of Tokyo-3. Unit-01 is thus special in being the only Eva unit containing a real soul, with Shinji being the only person she accepts as her pilot.

Rei II is, like the other kids, mostly keeping her general personality. She's quiet and bookish, and is mostly disinterested and disconnected with others because she's spent most of her life in the NERV lab and is out of school a lot. Gendo feels bad about this and goes out of his way to act like a father to her when he can. Seeing this, Shinji gets a little jealous because he feels like Gendo never showed him any of that same affection.

Any characters not mentioned are mostly unaffected by Yui and Asuka's mom being alive. This presumably means that all of Class 2A's moms are also alive, though the implications of this will not be explored as their evident lack of moms was never really a major influence in the show anyways.

The story starts similarly. Seele is anticipating the third angel will attack soon, so Rei starts more training with Unit-00, with one of these sessions resulting in an accident that leaves her injured. With just days before the projected angel attack, with no time for other NERV branches to ship over their pilots and Evangelions, Gendo is left with no option but to take Unit-01 out of ice and to call Shinji to Tokyo-3. Misato will still be Misato; she picks up Shinji when he arrives in Tokyo-3, and upon learning that Gendo and Yui were working so much that they were practically living at NERV HQ and really had no time to take care of him, volunteers to have Shinji live with her during his stay in Tokyo-3. Events from there will play out in a similar manner, except instead of everything going to shit because the characters are unable to properly communicate with each other because they're all horribly emotionally crippled, they're instead able to support each other through their problems and help each other grow into better people. While they're able to defeat all the angels, despite Gendo's best efforts Seele still manages to pull through with most of their Third Impact plan. Rei chooses to sacrifice herself in order to save her friends and family by hijacking Seele's plan and triggering 3i herself, giving Shinji the reins. Within Instrumentality, Shinji sees an alternate universe where his mom had died during a contact experiment and how that really seemed to fuck everything up for everyone. Thus, he realizes that no matter what difficulties he may have dealing with his friends and family, it's NOTHING compared to the possible future he saw, and that he really ought to appreciate the people around him who truly do care for him, even if they sometimes have trouble expressing it, and decides that he wants to return everyone to the real world.

I doubt I'll ever write anything for this, but it was fun thinking through a what-if scenario of "Evangelion as a typical shonen anime".

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Postby amitakartok » Sat May 15, 2021 11:25 am

However, the point of divergence from Evangelion is that Evas are made from soul imprints, which means that Yui and Asuka's mom are both still alive.


I had a similar thought back in the day, but in the opposite direction: when Gehirn tried to have Yui recovered from Unit 01 after the contact experiment, she wasn't in there. The real Yui Ikari died in the contact experiment; not passed on to whatever souls go after death, ceased to exist altogether. What is inside the Eva is an imprint of her personality without the memories or personal identity. It might have Yui's emotional attachment to Shinji, but it is not Yui, never was and never will be. Which catches not just Gendo, but even SEELE by surprise because it means there's something fundamentally wrong with their understanding of how these things work, potentially giving the author an excuse to have the pilots a few years older via delaying the completion of the Evas while those involved figure out what the hell went wrong.


An unrelated idea I had earlier this week while reading a fic where Shinji gets Unit 03 is that when the story starts and Gendo tries to send Shinji out against Sachiel, Unit 01 decides not to cooperate. Not by not going berserk, by refusing to sync with Shinji altogether as soon as it recognizes him. Surprise surprise, Yui doesn't actually want her child to be in harm's way and absolutely will not budge on that, no matter how many overrides, pleading or swearing is thrown her way, for as long as any alternative exists. So NERV are forced to put Rei into Unit 01 and Shinji into Unit 00 until Zeruel shows up and Yui's hand is forced.
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Postby Kendrix » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:51 am

IDK where all these "astronaut Shinji meets Kaworu in space" fanarts come from but it's making me imagine the rest of the story.

Maybe in this 'verse, Adam and Lillith did not land on the same planet, and the angels live peacefully on Mars, but maybe underground.
The first Mars base under Dr. Katsuragi disappeared mysteriously, causing a delay of many years before a second expedition is attempted.
Now at last, a brave team of explorers led by Misato has set up a second base.
But behind the scenes, SEELE is planning to 'nap one of the angels to make their ascension to godhood work as in canonverse, all under the guise of Mars exploration.
One day, rookie astronaut Shinji ventures a bit too far from the base and runs into the hot prince of Mars...


Another thing I'd like to see more of is the story from Rei's PoV ...which has totally been done before many times, but, those fics are so old now, there hasn't been very much Rei stuff for years. And like i don't mean ship stuff I mean any Rei-centric content. Ao3 has like 3 or 4 good Rei fics and some really weird porn.

It would be interesting to include some writing style fuckery, like, maybe at first she describes everything very curtly like "this happened, then that happened" & as the story goes on it becomes more evocative/detailed....
Another idea is that when you hit ep 23, the narration switches from first to third person describing what the third Rei is doing etc. but maybe lapsing back to first person at crucial moments ("She - I- looked down in disbelief at the teardrops gathered on the glasses") - or, if you were going the timeskip route, have the narrator voice go "wait, did she see me?" when ReiQ is supposed to see that apparition in her tube. You could even do both in a timeloop-ish scenario.
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Postby Occidere6 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:11 pm

i got a pretty cool idea. the end of evangelion but Shinji is the one in a coma and Asuka is the one that goes through the events that Shinji would of. TBH I think the hospital scene would play out the same because like Shinji always said "we are similar" or something along those lines. that's actually what gave me the idea, what would Asuka be thinking and how would Shinji react if the same events happened. ( I personally think it would be really interesting) would really love to see someone try doing something with this idea. even if it is shit.

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Postby Derantor » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:08 am

The only time I saw this done was in Adam Kadmon's old Witness (the version on MediaMiner). Be warned though, it's a Kadmon story. So it's dark and strange and pretty brutal. (I found it waffy in the end, but I'm weird anyway.)

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Postby amitakartok » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:38 pm

View Original PostOccidere6 wrote:TBH I think the hospital scene would play out the same because like Shinji always said "we are similar" or something along those lines.


A Pixiv artist recently made a NSFW gallery with pretty much that scenario.
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Postby amitakartok » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:38 pm

Idea while coming home from work this afternoon: femShinji is getting beaten up by Sachiel when Kaworu, acting on SEELE's behalf, airdrops in an Eva and dispatches the Angel for her before Unit 01 could be pushed far enough to go berserk.

What happens?
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