You Never See Anything Just Once - NTE Edition

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Postby JoelcrNeto » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:36 pm

^
Huh?
Mari's birthday is unknown, isn't? I can't remember any official source reporting her date.

EDIT: Only now I realized that Yui's birthday is wrong, and I had forgotten that Rei's birth date is unknown as well.
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Postby robersora » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:11 pm

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Seems like I made a great example of why proper research is important! :lol:
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Postby JoelcrNeto » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:59 am

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Actually I'm was in doubt whether or not you were believing it. :lol:
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:24 am

View Original Postandreh wrote:Maybe it was already posted, but...:
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Dude....

Maybe we were the angels all along! :bigeyes:

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Postby Kendrix » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:37 pm

View Original PostJoelcrNeto wrote:^
Huh?
Mari's birthday is unknown, isn't? I can't remember any official source reporting her date.


If the "VAs birthday" conventions still holds it would be March 31.

Rei & Kaworu are explicitly exceptions to this
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Postby robersora » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:31 pm

Reichu's recent essay talks about the Adams, and the weird plural form Anno chose to name them reminds me a lot of another long contested term, Children and Anno's weird insistence to use the plural for it.
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Postby BusterMachine4 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:18 pm

Well, didn't Anno get rid of the "First Children," "Second Children," etc terms in the Rebuilds? The pilots were consistently referred to as "shounen" for boys and "shoujo" for girls, and it was translated into English as "Child." I don't know what sort of plot significance it has, maybe it just signifies Anno realizing that the phrase "Third Children" makes no sense in English.

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Postby robersora » Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:24 pm

There's no plural in Japanese, so we can only speculate.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:18 pm

View Original PostBusterMachine4 wrote:Well, didn't Anno get rid of the "First Children," "Second Children," etc terms in the Rebuilds? The pilots were consistently referred to as "shounen" for boys and "shoujo" for girls, and it was translated into English as "Child." I don't know what sort of plot significance it has, maybe it just signifies Anno realizing that the phrase "Third Children" makes no sense in English.


It turns out that the explanation behind the term "Children" lay with Rei. Rei Ayanami was called the "First Children" because she was the first of a collective of children, and Nerv stuck to using the ungrammatical term for Asuka and Shinji as a way not to draw attention to Rei and the fact that she has clones.

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Q. Is the term "Children" a deliberate use?

A. According to a Evangelion date/address book, as Rei was not one child, but
several identical clone children, she was referred to as the "First
Children." It is surmised that to protect/hide this information, following
Evangelion pilots were referred to as the "n-th Children".
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Postby robersora » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:46 pm

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Whatever the reason, maybe "Adams" and "Lilin+" point to something similar. idk, just something I've observed.
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Postby BusterMachine4 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:23 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:It turns out that the explanation behind the term "Children" lay with Rei. Rei Ayanami was called the "First Children" because she was the first of a collective of children, and Nerv stuck to using the ungrammatical term for Asuka and Shinji as a way not to draw attention to Rei and the fact that she has clones.

https://web.archive.org/web/20111002185 ... 32029.html

Then, why did they change it in the Rebuilds? Rei is still one of many clones in that continuity. Since the only source for that is a calendar, I'm inclined to believe it was just an after-the-fact retcon.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:26 pm

You'd have to ask Anno why they changed it. You may be right about it being an after-the-fact retcon, or maybe Anno has something else in mind about changing the designation. I also had a sort of Childhood's End theme in mind, the idea of "The Children" being a sort of a super-entity from instrumentality. Come to think of it, that would require a hell of a lot of explanation of its own...
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Postby writer » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:01 pm

This shot of Sakura from the beginning of 3.0 and the trailer for Thrice is almost a direct reflection:
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This scene represents someone waking up on a bed, and directly references Shinji's "birth" from Eva01's juices at the beginning of 3.0. Could this be the birth of a new Shinji?
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Postby GunmetalSnail429 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:20 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Here's another one, comparing a famous shot from EoE with a big moment in Q. Pretty sneaky. I'm a little iffy on the full implications here.

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Postby GhostlyOcam » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:13 am

I could just post screenshots but I figured a GIF would make things a lot clearer. Both Asuka and Mari have the same habit of testing their synchronization reflexes before starting a mission, not to mentions in both scenes they're piloting Unit-02.

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More hints that they might be related? Or foreshadowing their eventual "overlapping" in Shin Eva, as Mari said in AVANT1. I still think they will have some sort of synchronization with those white plugsuits, maybe like having their minds and reflexes connected, so in a sense Unit-08+02 still happens, just not in a literal way.
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Postby Kendrix » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:28 pm

View Original Postwriter wrote:This shot of Sakura from the beginning of 3.0 and the trailer for Thrice is almost a direct reflection:
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Her expression is different, however. This is a similar but contrasting scene- either its our Shinji but WILLE's response to him is different, or it's Rei II returned, though I find the former much more likely.
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Postby ElMariachi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:03 pm

View Original PostKendrix wrote:
View Original Postwriter#904605 wrote:This shot of Sakura from the beginning of 3.0 and the trailer for Thrice is almost a direct reflection:
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Her expression is different, however. This is a similar but contrasting scene- either its our Shinji but WILLE's response to him is different, or it's Rei II returned, though I find the former much more likely.

Indeed, in the first one she's smiling and trying to put Shinji as much at ease as possible considering the circumstances (a hard task for someone restraining and with four dudes pointing guns at them), while in the second she looks preoccupied by what she's seeing. Maybe Shinji won't get out of his catatonia by the time they are picked up by WILLE and she's worried by seeing how the recent experiences affected him? Or maybe that'll be another scene after something happens to Shinji? (or maybe ReiQ, or Asuka or Mari?)
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Postby GhostlyOcam » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:46 pm

Because 1.0 was aired on TV last night in Japan and my TL was full of Eva content, I decided to rewatch it too to feel the hype, plus it's been a while since I watched it fully from start to finish. It's kind of a minor discovery, but I noticed this:
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Postby dzzthink » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:05 am

Misato and Asuka are always dragging this kid along (even in EoE), trying to get him to get moving.

I know some of the preview may not be used but here some other interesting similarities with ep 09.
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the credits 'in other words I love you' and the upside down Rei. Also one last kiss has 'I love you more than you will know'
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Postby EscapismIsBad » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:31 pm

Comparing Evangelion 2.22 to Evangelion Q

In 2.22 we have the EVAS interceptating one of Adams progenitors (8th Angel I think) which is falling from the sky.
In Q we have Unit 8 interceptating one of the Adams which is falling from the sky.
They share similar shots and situations.
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