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Postby ShinjiStranglesAsuka » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:09 pm

View Original PostJoseki wrote:Generally speaking Eva fans tend to have the mindset of "dark, grim, nihilistic = good", "positive, hopeful, cheerful, colored = trash" when judging entertainment from what I noticed online.


Lingering expectations from watching the original series, no doubt.

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Postby Stan » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:10 pm

Okay caught up on the last 11 pages (Jesus guys how did you make 11 pages in 12h?), some observations and predictions that are probably wrong:

-the shot with the moon and the floating power pole is post final impact to mimic EoE when they look at the moon with the blood stain line;
-the birds flying off the power poles will be accompanied by a final shot of Rei 2.0 or Rei Q once she triggers final impact and dies as a result (also loop theory lives on lmao :facepalm:);
-the school uniform is either flashbacks or a 'dream' of a what if scenario (similar to NGE);
-still curious if Kaji is dead or not, also there is a lack of Misato in this trailer and I don't like that;
-angry/determined Shinji gives me hope that he'll fix shit in this movie and not be a passive bystander feeling sorry for himself;
-would be interesting if Ritsuko shot Gendo this time, also I guarantee Gendo's eyes are messed up under those future shades he's wearing;
-baby Asuka is either a flashback, the aforementioned 'what if dream' or something to do with the ending (perhaps like the NGE manga, a complete reset);
-I still refuse the believe Mari does not have some plot relevant backstory, no way her only purpose is fan-service;
-fully expect some creepy Rei imagery of something fucked up happening during final impact (also upside down test tube Rei is likely looking at 2.0 Rei);
-100% Sakura is looking at Toji;
-Misato's bloody arm-band is either her guilt towards treating Shinji like crap (hence the pose), or in reference to EoE she gets shot;
-bridge bunnies are still 100% irrelevant and wont have more than a few minutes of screen-time;
-Kaworu is for sure piloting Unit 13 and wants Shinji to kill him again;
-I like the sunset background for the final battle, maybe that second last poster we got isn't just for metaphoric purposes;
-the new poster with the beach scene really does feel like a happier ending (or maybe it's just EoE in disguise lol);
-happy we knew about evil wunder a while back, feels good to be right;
-Unit 13 looks creepy when sitting down, maybe dummy plug system at it again?;
-great seeing Unit 1 out of the wunder and in action, that scene with the evas fighting in Tokyo-3 using the lances is definitely the start of the final battle (also nice to see they fixed Tokyo-3 and it's not corrified);
-Asuka's kitty hoodie is back!;
-in 2.0 Shinji has red eyes when Unit 1 went berserk, so the purple eyes this time makes me think he has his shit together;
-and also thumbs up for this awesome community, we spotted those 3.0 changes a while back, happy to see 3.333 announced! :shinji_grin:

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Postby pwhodges » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:13 pm

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Postby Mr. Tines » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:18 pm

View Original PostStan wrote:Okay caught up on the last 11 pages (Jesus guys how did you make 11 pages in 12h?)
The same way we filled 11 pages in 4 hours for Q, with no new video to dissect.
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Postby FXArmaros98 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:21 pm

View Original PostStan wrote:-Kaworu is for sure piloting Unit 13 and wants Shinji to kill him again;
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-in 2.0 Shinji has red eyes when Unit 1 went berserk, so the purple eyes this time makes me think he has his shit together;
-and also thumbs up for this awesome community, we spotted those 3.0 changes a while back, happy to see 3.333 announced! :shinji_grin:

Imagine this scenario: humanity is celebrating having defeated the Nerv, when suddenly Eva 13 appears and with Kaworu's voice publicly challenge Shinji in a battle where the victor will decide the fate of the human race ... Asuka's and Mari's Eva are out of order and also the AAA Wunder is too damaged, Eva 13 / Kaworu warns that if they don't let Shinji use Eva 01 to deal with him he will try to cause Instrumentality again and therefore Misato decides to let Shinji use the Eva 01 and the Spear of Cassius

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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:55 pm

View Original PostStan wrote:-bridge bunnies are still 100% irrelevant and wont have more than a few minutes of screen-time;


The epic brofist between Hyuga and Aoba suggests otherwise.
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Postby EscapismIsBad » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:04 pm

I really, really dislike the evil Kaworu concept, although, considering how Anno challenges the audience he probably would make the most influential character outside of Shinji in 3.0 "bad" if he could, it would be basically top 10 anime betrayals xD
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Postby ArtyumR » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:06 pm

I haven't seen any scene with Shinji and Asuka together at all, like we got Shinji, Asuka and Rei Q wandering through Tokyo 3 but... She's always distant which is weird, are they not showing us that on purpose? Not even once.. Weird.

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Postby Jäeger » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:07 pm

View Original PostStan wrote:Okay caught up on the last 11 pages (Jesus guys how did you make 11 pages in 12h?), some observations and predictions that are probably wrong:

-the shot with the moon and the floating power pole is post final impact to mimic EoE when they look at the moon with the blood stain line;
-the birds flying off the power poles will be accompanied by a final shot of Rei 2.0 or Rei Q once she triggers final impact and dies as a result (also loop theory lives on lmao :facepalm:);
-the school uniform is either flashbacks or a 'dream' of a what if scenario (similar to NGE);
-still curious if Kaji is dead or not, also there is a lack of Misato in this trailer and I don't like that;
-angry/determined Shinji gives me hope that he'll fix shit in this movie and not be a passive bystander feeling sorry for himself;
-would be interesting if Ritsuko shot Gendo this time, also I guarantee Gendo's eyes are messed up under those future shades he's wearing;
-baby Asuka is either a flashback, the aforementioned 'what if dream' or something to do with the ending (perhaps like the NGE manga, a complete reset);
-I still refuse the believe Mari does not have some plot relevant backstory, no way her only purpose is fan-service;
-fully expect some creepy Rei imagery of something fucked up happening during final impact (also upside down test tube Rei is likely looking at 2.0 Rei);
-100% Sakura is looking at Toji;
-Misato's bloody arm-band is either her guilt towards treating Shinji like crap (hence the pose), or in reference to EoE she gets shot;
-bridge bunnies are still 100% irrelevant and wont have more than a few minutes of screen-time;
-Kaworu is for sure piloting Unit 13 and wants Shinji to kill him again;
-I like the sunset background for the final battle, maybe that second last poster we got isn't just for metaphoric purposes;
-the new poster with the beach scene really does feel like a happier ending (or maybe it's just EoE in disguise lol);
-happy we knew about evil wunder a while back, feels good to be right;
-Unit 13 looks creepy when sitting down, maybe dummy plug system at it again?;
-great seeing Unit 1 out of the wunder and in action, that scene with the evas fighting in Tokyo-3 using the lances is definitely the start of the final battle (also nice to see they fixed Tokyo-3 and it's not corrified);
-Asuka's kitty hoodie is back!;
-in 2.0 Shinji has red eyes when Unit 1 went berserk, so the purple eyes this time makes me think he has his shit together;
-and also thumbs up for this awesome community, we spotted those 3.0 changes a while back, happy to see 3.333 announced! :shinji_grin:


There is no reset in the manga ending, but reincarnations. And it's not a theory : it's what Yui tells Shinji and the reader. And I hope Anno doesnt follow that road. Flashback or timeskip, but the facial expression is puré tsundere.

And yeah, not images of Shinji and Asuka together, even in the wasteland. Something smells fishy here....
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Postby Stan » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:07 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:The epic brofist between Hyuga and Aoba suggests otherwise.


I thought the same back when 3.0 came out and we saw so many new characters, I was wrong. The brofist might be all that we get for those two :rolleyes:

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Postby Jayfive » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:11 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:The same way we filled 11 pages in 4 hours for Q, with no new video to dissect.


That thread was fun in real time but oh boy did I call so many things about 3.0 wrong :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Postby EscapismIsBad » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:12 pm

View Original PostStan wrote:I thought the same back when 3.0 came out and we saw so many new characters, I was wrong. The brofist might be all that we get for those two :rolleyes:

I wonder why they're wearing black plugsuits, did something happen with the Wunder? Do they need to hack some more alien pillars? Maybe they're going inside that Unit 8 rocket tail thing?
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Postby dzzthink » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:16 pm

ArtyumR wrote:I haven't seen any scene with Shinji and Asuka together at all, like we got Shinji, Asuka and Rei Q wandering through Tokyo 3 but... She's always distant which is weird, are they not showing us that on purpose? Not even once.. Weird.


I won't base the movie on what we see in the trailers as they would of course hold back on some key moments. This is probably one of the best trailers I have seen, no over glamorizing action scene, no spoilers, no corny narration, just a simple montage with a new song in the background. I've made a tally of all the unique character appearances in the four teasers/trailers that we have and I have to say it's a pretty even spread of the three main characters, so there will be plenty more in-depth interactions in the full viewing:

Shinji: 8 (also unit 01 has 2 scenes)
Rei: 8
Asuka: 8 (also unit 02 has 3 scenes, along with a possible younger Asuka toddler scene)
Mari: 6 (also 3 scenes in eva)
Misato: 3
Kaworu: 2
Gendo: 1

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Postby Jayfive » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:18 pm

View Original Postdzzthink wrote:This is probably one of the best trailers I have seen, no over glamorizing action scene, no spoilers, no corny narration, just a simple montage with a new song in the background.


Pretty much every close-to-release trailer since 2.0 has been like this.
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Postby Jäeger » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:24 pm

What people should be talking about is the horrendous CG :facepalm:

Why? Why do the evas look like that?
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Postby Ghdust » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:24 pm

I think that shot with the giant red hand isn’t one of the Failures Of Infinity but in fact NTE’s version of giant naked Rei. Take a look at the image of the giant arm:

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And then take a look at this shot of “Rei” from the previous trailer:

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Same heavy, menacing tone, same blood red color palette. Looks like it’s all going to come tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down again...

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Postby Joseki » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:43 pm

View Original PostArtyumR wrote:I haven't seen any scene with Shinji and Asuka together at all, like we got Shinji, Asuka and Rei Q wandering through Tokyo 3 but... She's always distant which is weird, are they not showing us that on purpose? Not even once.. Weird.


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Postby andreh » Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:15 pm

View Original PostGhdust wrote:I think that shot with the giant red hand isn’t one of the Failures Of Infinity but in fact NTE’s version of giant naked Rei.


I believe that they are FOIs, but after some kind of transformation or activation, since they are semi-transparent. This was shown in UYCTM:
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The maybe-Mari outfit reminds me of Revy's winter outfit from Black Lagoon...

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Postby BlackSuitMari » Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:25 pm

View Original PostStan wrote:Okay caught up on the last 11 pages (Jesus guys how did you make 11 pages in 12h?), some observations and predictions that are probably wrong:

-the shot with the moon and the floating power pole is post final impact to mimic EoE when they look at the moon with the blood stain line;
-the birds flying off the power poles will be accompanied by a final shot of Rei 2.0 or Rei Q once she triggers final impact and dies as a result (also loop theory lives on lmao :facepalm:);
-the school uniform is either flashbacks or a 'dream' of a what if scenario (similar to NGE);
-still curious if Kaji is dead or not, also there is a lack of Misato in this trailer and I don't like that;
-angry/determined Shinji gives me hope that he'll fix shit in this movie and not be a passive bystander feeling sorry for himself;
-would be interesting if Ritsuko shot Gendo this time, also I guarantee Gendo's eyes are messed up under those future shades he's wearing;
-baby Asuka is either a flashback, the aforementioned 'what if dream' or something to do with the ending (perhaps like the NGE manga, a complete reset);
-I still refuse the believe Mari does not have some plot relevant backstory, no way her only purpose is fan-service;
-fully expect some creepy Rei imagery of something fucked up happening during final impact (also upside down test tube Rei is likely looking at 2.0 Rei);
-100% Sakura is looking at Toji;
-Misato's bloody arm-band is either her guilt towards treating Shinji like crap (hence the pose), or in reference to EoE she gets shot;
-bridge bunnies are still 100% irrelevant and wont have more than a few minutes of screen-time;
-Kaworu is for sure piloting Unit 13 and wants Shinji to kill him again;
-I like the sunset background for the final battle, maybe that second last poster we got isn't just for metaphoric purposes;
-the new poster with the beach scene really does feel like a happier ending (or maybe it's just EoE in disguise lol);
-happy we knew about evil wunder a while back, feels good to be right;
-Unit 13 looks creepy when sitting down, maybe dummy plug system at it again?;
-great seeing Unit 1 out of the wunder and in action, that scene with the evas fighting in Tokyo-3 using the lances is definitely the start of the final battle (also nice to see they fixed Tokyo-3 and it's not corrified);
-Asuka's kitty hoodie is back!;
-in 2.0 Shinji has red eyes when Unit 1 went berserk, so the purple eyes this time makes me think he has his shit together;
-and also thumbs up for this awesome community, we spotted those 3.0 changes a while back, happy to see 3.333 announced! :shinji_grin:



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