The blue-haired alien chick looks very similar to Rei, too. Rei doesn't have long hair in Anima, but lop it off and...

What happens in Anima isn't a time loop, as the flow of time constantly moves forward, but it's not not really reincarnation either.

BlueBasilisk wrote:The blue-haired alien chick looks very similar to Rei, too. Rei doesn't have long hair in Anima, but lop it off and...

What happens in Anima isn't a time loop, as the flow of time constantly moves forward, but it's not not really reincarnation either.

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When Armaros destroys the world and creates the new one, he uses the Ark to reboot the Earth to where it was some 20,000 years in the past to begin the new cycle. The Ark contains all the bio-data of every lifeform that's ever existed on Earth, so even though the world is being restarted before human society came about, it's indicated that all of the same people will exist in each incarnation of the world. Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Misato and Ritsuko existed in the previous version of the world, they exist in the current of the world, and it's taken as a matter of fact that there's going to be a Shinji in the next incarnation of the world that Armaros is trying to create too.

They compare it to loading an old save file from a video game. The Ark essentially works as a back-up drive to restore data after the system is reformatted. That's how two Shinjis are able to exist simultaneously. The one that was Armaros is from tens of thousands of years in the past and is a separate individual from the present Shinji, and the next Shinji would likewise be different.

Yeah, I understand what you have explained. Maybe I'm talking more about the loop theory that links NGE and NTE, because there is no reset after EOE : we know what happens after 3I, is what gives sense to the movie. That's where reincarnations get inside the game. Or parallel universes. Or who knows what, this is not the place for that debate

About an scene from vol.4



My god, I have watched Iconic Field again. Yeah, that's Anima. THE FUCKING BOW. And those are Shinji without ponytal and Asuka with short hair, no mistake here. The blue haired girl shares with Rei only the color, she doesn't look a lot like her (unless she is a clone of the MC's mother, too ), but the designs of the couple are almost the same.[/quote]

Thank you so much for answering my questions BlueBasilisk but I have to ask you some more because I am very curious and there is still something I have not fully understood: Forgive me BlueBasilisk for too many questions

FXArmaros98 wrote:Thank you so much for answering my questions BlueBasilisk but I have to ask you some more because I am very curious and there is still something I have not fully understood:

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After Asuka / Eva give life to the new eva thanks the data that she absorbed from the Ark at the end of the story Shinji and Eva 01 are they still the same being split into 2 bodies or did he finally get his heart back?How is Shinji with Asuka and Gendo at the end of the story? What do you know about Lucretius' spear and the World Tree? If ANIMA Toji used Bardiel's power do you think Asuka Shikinami in the last movie could do something like this?/spoiler] [spoiler]Regarding the story that ANIMA Shinji is the snake, I remembered a thread about Rebuilds where members of this forum point out that the SEELE Rebuild symbol has a snake and both Lilith's corpse and the infinity failures have filaments. similar in fact has snakes ... Do you believe that even in Rebuild Shinji it can be something like a snake and that this can have a connection with its red eyes?Kaworu said the birds have already gone to the next world? Well in the short film Until You Come To Me Shinji and the viewer before seeing a Rei Quantic notice a flock of seagulls ... How the hell is it possible that in the world after the fourth impact there can be seagulls? Also maybe could you give the link for translated parts of volume 5 and the illustration of Shinji, Asuka,Toji,Kensuke and the Ayanamis together watching the stars together if you can?

Forgive me BlueBasilisk for too many questions

To answer your questions as best I can:

Thank you, well now I have theory:

Thanks for have delete my older post

No problem!

* waiting for volume 4 to wind up on the internets & volume 5 to show up *
At this rate I might actually buy it but it'll probably take a month to arrive.
I have surely blown more money on things that were just "to sate my curiosity"

I buy mine digitally through BookWalker's global store and they're on Kindle too. I would have bought physical copies but I already own the Japanese books digitally and in paperback since I never imagined they'd get translated. Didn't want to quadruple dip!

Here are some possible spoilers on the last page of ANIMA which I found on old 4chan threads Note (Until the translation of the fifth volume is published they are not to be considered truthful) Please don't ask me for a link as I would struggle too much to search the threads again

FXArmaros98 wrote:Here are some possible spoilers on the last page of ANIMA which I found on old 4chan threads Note (Until the translation of the fifth volume is published they are not to be considered truthful)

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It seems that the last chapter of ANIMA published in 2013 has pushed the Japanese fanbase on 2chan to believe that ANIMA and the Rebuilds are connected or not due to this rumour: it seems that Kaworu at the end of the story promises Shinji that he would return from him after saving the Shinji of the future worlds, and that on the last page there was a sort of dream / reality sequence created by ANIMAShinji where he and Kaworu are together with no one else on an island and that scene is a sort of prequel of Rebuilds but there were also those who considered the Kaworu Rebuild a separate character from that of ANIMA and also Yamashita would have declared that ANIMA is to be considered the third world ...

Please don't ask me for a link as I would struggle too much to search the threads again

After reading the four volumes that sounds like bullshit, even for Anima standars. Just wait until the oficial release.

And, by the way

Even before Rebuilds were announced, in the various games of the Super Robot Wars saga Kaworu often said things that made it implied that he remembered events from older games even if they weren't prequels leading him to be accused of being a time looper by the fans ... I mostly support the multiverse instead of the time loop ... The only thing I wrote that seemed believable to me too is that the Japanese fans on 2chan argued about whether ANIMA and the Rebuilds were connected or not. ..

FXArmaros98 wrote:Well Jeager even before Rebuilds were announced, in the various games of the Super Robot Wars saga Kaworu often said things that made it implied that he remembered events from older games even if they weren't prequels leading him to be accused of being a time looper by the fans ... I mostly support the multiverse over the time loop ... The only thing I wrote that seemed believable to me too is that the Japanese fans on 2chan argued about whether ANIMA and the Rebuilds were connected or not when the last chapter was out in the 2013.

Not even multiverse...many succesful franchises have more than one continuity, it's just a way to grab more cash. As I've said before, dont overthink things too much as usual, the simplest answer is the most accurate one.

And SRW is the king of puns towards any anime who joins the party.

I regret losing the translation of one of the evangelion endings, which was quite funny. I recall it was about the children (Shinji, Asuka, Hikari, Touji & Kensuke) talking about their new life after the battles had ended.

Yamashita definitely took a peek at Rebuild's cliffnotes/perhaps discarded ideas when writing Anima

All I know is that ANIMA was born from Anno's desire to have a story more like Gundam and in the 2004 he asked to Yamashita if he wanted to write a What If story as a continuation of the original anime, and then confess to him some future plans for the Franchise... It seems that both ANIMA and Rebuilds use both old and unused ideas from the anime and new ideas...

FXArmaros98 wrote:All I know is that ANIMA was born from Anno's desire to have a story more like Gundam and in the 2004 he asked to Yamashita if he wanted to write a What If story as a continuation of the original anime, and then confess to him some future plans for the Franchise... It seems that both ANIMA and Rebuilds use both old and unused ideas from the anime and new ideas...

Do you have a source for that? because that souds fascinating.

But this seems to me the most likely conclusion: Not a direct line from ANIMA to Rebuild, but that both arose independently from the "unused ideas" bag for the original series and then gradually went off the rails. Same could probably be said for Sadamoto's manga.

Up to Volume 3 it doesn't seem like there's a literal timeloop anywhere(nor is it really compatible with the FAR backstory), more something like eternal recurrence. Like I said, it looks like those early fanfics before the CI were a thing, where the authors would really go nuts with the vaguer/softer parts of the worldbuilding

I don't know Anno having told that Anima in particular grew out of that desire, but he has talked about wishing to make Eva a Gundam-like franchise with much cultural relevancy, so the idea that that's why he decided to give Yamashita the option to do Anima isn't out of the question.

If I remember correctly Yamashita in one of his interviews made those statements, regarding the reasons for which he had permission from Anno himself to write ANIMA, but unfortunately I not have a link for be able to confirm ... But anyway in my opinion the many similarities between the films and novels are a confirmation that Yamashita was really one of the few who had permission from Anno to know things in advance about the Rebuild plot ... This is interesting because it could be linked to that interview in which the voice actor of Kaworu said he received a letter from Anno about who Kaworu and Shinji really are in Rebuild, and how this shocked the rest of the cast by discovering the plot details of the films.I also remembered a fact that perhaps we should not have overlooked, at the end of the 3 translated Volumes (I don't remember exactly which one), Yamashita made a comment on the appearance of Armaros: he said that he had asked Anno if he could use the drawing of the Mark 06 in its history. What does this mean? That Yamashita, unlike the creators of the other spin-offs, has to ask Anno for consent regarding certain details of the plot? If this is really the case, it means that ANIMA is even more important than the manga since Sadamoto could perhaps do what he wanted while Yamashita must consult Anno in person.