Watched these for the first time in a good number of years.
Watched the Sandy Frank dubs which are considered the worst versions apparently but they are the versions I am used to.
Gamera - The Invincible (1965)- Worse then I remember and even when I was young I remember it being lesser than it's immediate sequel Gamera vs Barugon which I saw first.
- Everything with the kid outside of the lighthouse rescue is absolutely unbearable. He is moodily obsessed with Gamera to the point of putting himself and others in direct obvious danger and fights back when is being rescued.
- Tonally contradictory as fuck. We have absurd number of scenes of the kid ranting about Gamera being a good guy and the adults more or less going along with him contrasted with Gamera blasting fire directly into a club full of teenagers.
- Dialogue and voice work is largely very poor, only the main scientist sounds acceptable.
- Gamera suit is good, facially more grotesque than he would be in any of the showa sequels.
- Wish they had done more with the ominous Cold War elements that are present in the opening scene in the artic.
- Stuff with the military attacking Gamera at the power plant & his main attack on Toyko are all nothing special but good enough.
- The version I saw there isn't enough contrast on the black & white so the film seems murky and overly grey at times.
- Score is good but again is very conflicting with the kid's storyline. The score sounds tragic and foreboding.
- Weak overall. I can see where a damn good film could have been made here but they squandered it.
Gamera vs Gyaos (1967)- The kid here while younger & still has a annoyingly girly voice is MUCH more natural in behavior / personality & isn't crow barred into everything quite as much.
- Gamera suit is acceptable but here is where they started softening his look as he has gone full superhero in this film compared to being a 99% villain in the first film and a tolerable dangerous weapon against other monsters in vs Barugon.
- Gyaos's suit is kinda stiff but fairly iconic looking depending on the angle.
- Dialogue is overall much less incoherent and dumb than the first film.
- Score is good.
- Fast paced and doesn't have as much extended build up that vs Barugon had.
- Decent overall.
Gamera vs Barugon (1966) which came out between these 2 remains firmly better than both IMO. It's the only showa Gamera film without kids and it's tonally consistently serious.