Oz wrote:I am not surprised to see that this place has continued its way down the downward spiral of oppressive moderation and political witch hunts since I left over 5 years ago.
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Absolutely spontaneously and secretly banning Xard and several members just because they were considered to be his friends convinces me that leaving this place was the right thing to do.
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So yeah, long time no see and you won't hear from me again: the ban hammer will swing again just because I'm stepping on a nerve by defending Xard.

Just for clarification to other users, as Oz said, he'll be gone for good (there is a dedicated Departure thread for goodbyes, but who cares at this point // also why does he care about getting banned when he has no interest of posting? Schizo, much?)
I didn't even know about this massive wave of banning, all I know is that Reichu was apparently getting increasingly paranoid that "something bad might happen", which, considering what a bunch of crying man children the Xard support group is composed of, might not have been without reason (imagine being so butthurt for being told that it's against the rules to post a homophobe diatribe and refuse to actually engage with people who try to talk it out and instead send a cavalcade of what I imagine must be deranged incels to cry about it. Like, sheesh go outside or something. srsly, big yikes.) However, Reichu severely overreacted due to what I assume must have been the accumulation of years and years of (perceived?) bullying. She snapped against me in a passive aggressive manner as well, after daring to say something that wasn't of her opinion.

tl,dr. both sides seem to dole out severe mental issues and this forum apparently is the perfect battle ground for it. I for one have no patience for such childish behavior on a forum about a Japanese cartoon from the 90s.

I always tried to engage in the mantra of "don't be an asshole" But when one side starts spouting far-right dehumanizing talking points and cries when they get deplatformed for it, while the other side thinks it can solve the problem by banning away everything they perceive as "evil", I really struggle to find empathy for either side. This is like a microcosmic version of the massive retardation that is contemporary American Politics.

Robersora:

This is like a microcosm version of the retardation that is American Politics.

I don't know the forum history as well as you do, but I'd say that full-on retardation mode would be hit when the people on either side just refuse to even attempt to talk with others and highly scream about how their way is the only right way and have given up on even the pretense of listening to the other side's points and are also constantly hypocritical...so would you say that's what happened? Because to me it seems like people are still kind of at least attempting to talk with each other and we haven't reached that aforementioned point yet.

Well, to be fair, I think Reichu was temp banned for a short time for that type of behavior as well at roughly the same time as Xard's article post? Neither she nor Xard were "permabanned," though, so it's not like anything was dealt unfairly in either direction. Also, I seem to remember Xard being a staff member here at one point. (Complete with the fancy blue color to his name and everything!) Clearly this forum's staff at the time thought enough of Xard's conduct prior to the temp ban as being suitable enough to be trusted as a fellow staff member. This isn't a case of the staff going "There are people on this forum who disagree with us, so let's ban them!" Rather, both sides of the aisle, even among staff members, did have to take a breather for their own respective behaviors, not their differing opinions.

It's just that this type of behavior was kinda the norm for a bit on this forum, and people just kinda showed up to watch the fights. Again, I do not want to return to that. I much appreciate how the forum is doing now. I do wish it were more active than it is now, and that's partially on me for not posting as much about film in the Off Topic subform as I used to, but I think most of the Eva-related activity will finally occur once Shin Eva finally is released and we're all debating it's quality for 3 whole 100-page threads for a solid 6 months or something.

FreakyFilmFan4ever:
Well, in that case, this forum is (and was) in a better place than Robersora and Oz were making it out to be. Of course, Serious Discussion isn't active anymore either and that seems to be where the vast majority of these kinds of problems originated from and from what I understand, both Reichu and Xard still engaged in some not-that-nice behavior that can be constructed as being similar to the ''absolutely sure in themselves'' part of the equation...though I don't want to act like being sure of oneself is necessarily a bad thing and internet discussions about heated topics with different opinions being discussed tend to end badly anyways and this still ended with all sides having a lot more dignity and understanding of others than usually common-again from what I understand. (I really need to look up some of the forum history here).

Shin Eva finally is released and we're all debating it's quality for 3 whole 100-page threads for a solid 6 months or something.

Mmm, yes, looking forward to that.

Zusuchan wrote:Robersora:

I don't know the forum history as well as you do, but I'd say that full-on retardation mode would be hit when the people on either side just refuse to even attempt to talk with others and highly scream about how their way is the only right way and have given up on even the pretense of listening to the other side's points and are also constantly hypocritical...so would you say that's what happened? Because to me it seems like people are still kind of at least attempting to talk with each other and we haven't reached that aforementioned point yet.

You haven't read the behind the scenes post in which most of the drama I laid out happened. And it's really bad. It's a lot of misunderstanding in bad faith, no trust in the other side, petty passive-aggressiveness galore... it's like a stereotypical American High School you know from the movies with the added bonus of one side not understanding that nobody cares or likes fascist incels, while the other side has very low mental fortitude.

I am really, really fed up with this bullshit drama, which is why I want everyone to know in the hopes of shaming them into behaving like grown-ups.

FreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:It's just that this type of behavior was kinda the norm for a bit on this forum, and people just kinda showed up to watch the fights. Again, I do not want to return to that. I much appreciate how the forum is doing now. I do wish it were more active than it is now, and that's partially on me for not posting as much about film in the Off Topic subform as I used to, but I think most of the Eva-related activity will finally occur once Shin Eva finally is released and we're all debating it's quality for 3 whole 100-page threads for a solid 6 months or something.

dito, and it was all pretty contained in the backdoor until the cavalcade of retarded incel-trolls decided to stir drama up to the point that Reichu totally lost her marbles.

Don't you find it a bit odd that this discussion was brought up over the frowning of using certain sex slurs, only for you to use certain sex slurs which may not even be accurate at all?

I mean yeah, but I never proposed for censoring no-no words and despite that these assholes pulled me into the drama, so I will use every slur I can find to describe these losers.
Like I really tried defusing the situation, yet they thought it appropriate to start attacking me with petty claims. I have no tolerance for people who bite the the hand who tried to help them. Maybe because I'm gay and Xard's a known homophobe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, this felt nice, airing all my frustrations. I originally just wanted to make one statement, lmao.

Here, allow me to dispel the negative vibes from this thread...

FreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Here, allow me to dispel the negative vibes from this thread...

What's that from?

^ Tamako Market, a slice-of-life comedy anime from 2013.

That's adorable. I've put it on my to-watch list.

Just a reminder -- Actively contribute to threads.

This includes not feeding the trolls, not touching the poop, and not posting while annoyed.