Evangelion 3.0 interviews (needs translation!)

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition").
The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby unitM » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:08 pm

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:Mari confirmed to be almost completely driven by Tsurumaki with no real input from Anno. Pointlessness confirmed.
Lol funny you'd jump to that conclusion. That makes no sense. If that were the case, Mari wouldn't be given a script at all. Maybe there's a reason Anno left Mari without criticism and let her be natural. Her character certainly embodies a really strong natural child archetype. I don't know how you got "let her act it her own way" to "let her do whatever she wants."

The only layers we've gotten from Mari are that she's really enthusiastic about being social, which is shown by her movements and her uninhibited parts of her actions, and that she also knows more, and that more is the something viewer did not know, in a very serious manner. So basically she's a free child, but balanced in the other egos as well. This is how she's marketed in almost every one of her scenes because it's her personality and her egogram. It almost appears as if she's normal and just well balanced, but tagging along for the ride(again, the representation of a free child: no responsibility but excited to be around). I think that's what makes her strange in the series though; she's just normal.

Whereas Asuka represents a strong critical parent ego, and Shinji the adapted child one, Mari takes the third one of the series. I think her placement is fine, to be honest. If there's a trip scene in FINAL, I really hope we're shown a happy-go-lucky Mari perspective.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:19 pm

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:The difference is Mari is an actual Eva pilot and thus is in a position to more greatly affect the narrative

I think this is just a notion we have. I think it's OK to have a pilot who is just a pilot.
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Postby Kvanu » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:41 pm

Some stuff I thought was cool/weird:

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That scene was still un-animated when I watched it at home, so Mr. Anno had to describe what was going on at the studio. I listened to his explanation, but… well, we were recording around March, and images of last year’s disaster (the 2011 Tohoku Earthquake) were still all over TV. I just imagined ”what if this was all my (Shinji’s) fault?” I just… it made me go “Woahhhhhh"…


So if they were recording in March of 2012 and scenes weren't close to being finished, and they still got it out in November 2012, is there a chance Shin can come out late this year or early next?

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This Rei is a different Rei, so I voiced her as being indifferent. When I asked Anno-san “What’s going on in the scene with the multiplying Reis?” he gave me a clear answer which I can’t disclose here, but Director Tsurumaki and other staff were super shocked.


What could Rei's VA mean by this?? Multiplying Reis? And what's the secret?

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It can be possible, in 3.0, to figure out where Mari comes from, but considering that it hasn’t been officially revealed yet, not even to me, I’d like to know more about it.


Does Mari's VA mean that photograph?

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And maybe I shouldn’t be the one to say things like this, but with respect to Eva… even if the audience reacts negatively to it, I feel like that’s perfectly fine. In fact, going back to my roots, I think that that’s the point of Eva. This is a new series. This is just my take on it, but I think that whatever opinions people form about this movie is fair game.


That's a nice way to look at things. I like how Gendo's VA is the most talkative and informative.

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There’s a line that alludes to the fact that he’d recently heard about Misato from Kaji.

The Kaji line directly links me to Yama-chan in my mind, so it was quite easy for me to get a feel for what kind of relationship they have, like that “Ah, I remember my good friend saying that…” kind of thing. But that’s really where it begins and ends, since a majority of my lines were Koji conducting work, and that’s not something that requires a lot of emotion on my part. On the contrary, he had to sound businesslike and efficient. It’s during the quieter moments that we can just pop those “Oh, so that’s what Kaji meant…” moments.


So Kaji is really alive just not on the ship. But how are Koji and Kaji friends if Misato and Koji haven't met until now? It doesn't make sense.

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Right after I got the part, I called Seki Tomokazu, who played Toji, and asked him how he’d done the role. His answer was roughly something like “Oh, it really isn’t an Osaka dialect. It’s a Toji-dialect.” Meaning, he wasn’t speaking with the mindset of a person from Osaka, but rather as himself, speaking with an Osaka dialect. All I could say was “Yeah, I feel you”. (laughs)


Sakura VA talks about Toji's VA like his role as Toji is over. Referring to his death maybe?
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Postby robersora » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:32 pm

View Original PostKvanu wrote:What could Rei's VA mean by this?? Multiplying Reis? And what's the secret?


I guess it's Quantum Rei she is talking about.

View Original PostKvanu wrote:Does Mari's VA mean that photograph?


Not necessarily; I guess she implies the very specific time period the songs come from she sings. Also, calling Asuka Hime-sama, and saying Gendou-kun combined with the fact that she is being called "Kone-Megane" by Asuka, points to a Mari that was exposed to the Grudge of Eva in the same time-spectrum when Yui was absorbed.
(If, of course, Sadamoto's backstory for Mari is similar to Anno's; or Tsurumaki's)

View Original PostKvanu wrote:So Kaji is really alive just not on the ship.

I really don't see, where this is implied, but maybe I'm missing some nuances, because English is not my native language. From what I can read he only states, that Kaji&Koji have known each other for a long time.
View Original PostKvanu wrote:But how are Koji and Kaji friends if Misato and Koji haven't met until now? It doesn't make sense.

Kaji had a live in between the College-fling with Misato and his appearance in 2.22. Not to mention the 14 year-gap between Ha and Q. Also if this wasn't the case, why should Koji know Misato? Just because an old friend of his fucks her?

View Original PostKvanu wrote:Sakura VA talks about Toji's VA like his role as Toji is over. Referring to his death maybe?

Once again, I don't read that notion at all. Is it because it was translated into Simple Past instead of Present Perfect?
You should know, Japanese only has one form of grammatical past, so this being translated into Simple Past instead of Present Perfect Form could have just been a choice of style.
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Postby Kvanu » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:07 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:I guess it's Quantum Rei she is talking about.

That doesn't explain the "secret" behind Quantum Rei that shocked everyone on the staff. Guess we'll never know till the movie comes out with answers (if it even has answers)

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Not necessarily; I guess she implies the very specific time period the songs come from she sings. Also, calling Asuka Hime-sama, and saying Gendou-kun combined with the fact that she is being called "Kone-Megane" by Asuka, points to a Mari that was exposed to the Grudge of Eva in the same time-spectrum when Yui was absorbed.
(If, of course, Sadamoto's backstory for Mari is similar to Anno's; or Tsurumaki's)

That's true. The hints that Mari is older than she looks have been around for a long time. There's no reason why their backstory should be different.

View Original Postrobersora wrote:I really don't see, where this is implied, but maybe I'm missing some nuances, because English is not my native language. From what I can read he only states, that Kaji&Koji have known each other for a long time. Kaji had a live in between the College-fling with Misato and his appearance in 2.22. Not to mention the 14 year-gap between Ha and Q. Also if this wasn't the case, why should Koji know Misato? Just because an old friend of his fucks her?

Well the Wille crew are newly formed and mostly volunteers. It's reasonable to think that Kaji and Misato grew closer during the time-skip, if he's helping Misato going Anti-NERV. So it makes no sense that Koji and Misato wouldn't be acquainted until now. Or maybe not. Maybe Koji met Misato before but never saw her as a captain.
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Postby KurisuNimii » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:46 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:What bugs me is that line :

Ishida clearly says that Kaworu accumulated the memories and experiences of several cycles, these cycles could be NGE and even the manga, that would explain why his representation change so drastically in every continuity : from EMK the kitty-slayer to NGE!Kaworu much more gentle and loving Shinji to Q!Kaworu who this time is actively trying to bring him happiness.

Also, this line :

Ishida sounds like he's talking about what's in Kaworu's head, that he though that this time he won't make the same mistake and succeed, which ties with his line at the end of 2.0 : "This time, I will make you happy". But in the end he ends up manipulated again and had to die to let a chance to mankind, in front of Shinji which hurt him more than anything else, again.
Maybe that's what Anno meant when he said that "Eva is a story that repeats"?



What??? no.

I know this post is a bit old, but i really have to talk about it, the loop theory does not include manga

just NGE-several loops that no one knows about-(until finally arriving) Rebuilds

because the manga is meaningless chronologically
and according to the logic of the theory, manga is not part of the universe / main loop
Kaworu, pls come back in the 3.0 + 1.0

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Postby Zusuchan » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:27 am

KurisuNimii: Actually, the most plausible idea right now states both that the timeloop is not really a ''loop'' in the true sense of that word and that it happens specifically in Rebuild continuity only. The original NGE continuity is not a part of the ''loop''. If you want a more concise/detailed/good explanation, this thread is a great place: thread/20098/Thrice-Upon-A-Humanity-The-Deep-Lore-of-NTE-WIP/?hilit=


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