A New Challenger Has Appeared! (3+1's New Eva(s))

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Re: Lamp Festival with Anno drawings

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Postby Reichu » Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:56 pm

View Original PostArcadia's legacy wrote:Wait, when and where in Q did we see those images?

Look at the background for craters around when Mk.9 starts hacking Wunder up to when Eva-02 is able to catch up with the ship. There will be many craters on the Black Moon's surface of various sizes with that symbol inside them. I posted the largest and most clear occurrence. (Regular orientation and flipped 90 degrees.)
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:15 pm

Huh. And here i was thinking they were just regular craters
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Postby Mr. M » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:34 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote::

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What was supposed to be? A blackboard? Hand-written documents or something else?
And there is a reason for cutting this out of the movie?
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Postby Reichu » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:38 pm

View Original PostMr. M wrote:What was supposed to be? A blackboard? Hand-written documents or something else?

Image of the deleted cuts here. The storyboard phase had planned for a shot of a "different factory" (to be shown behind Shinji), showing a bunch of capsules on a conveyer belt, possibly empty. In the foreground of this shot, there was to be a display showing the statuses of the various Reis. Then there would be a close-up of this display.

And there is a reason for cutting this out of the movie?

My uncle doesn't work at khara; how am I supposed to know? :tongue: But if you're asking me for a guess, presumably it's because it revealed far too much, and any still-relevant content will be recycled into Fuyutsuki's upcoming scene with Rei instead.

Arcadia's legacy wrote:Huh. And here i was thinking they were just regular craters

Like, there are plenty of normal craters on the Black Moon in the last act of the movie, and you probably have to be some kind of obsessed maniac who takes way too many screenshots ( :uhh: ) to realize that something funny is going on during a very specific time frame in that sequence. But yeah. I found that by accident a while ago, and I still have no good idea what it's really supposed to be. (Outer rim of crater looks like eyelids, and the inside looks vaguely like... the pupil of the eye, except it has a chromosome coming out of it, and also the iris is a magnetic field, and there's an axis line as if the inner part of the eye is Earth or some shit? WTF???)

But anyway... When I pulled out the Rei listing again, the "JOIN" symbol immediately gave me a flashback to the thing in the craters. All this INFINITY and JOIN stuff feel faintly ominous, does it not? And what's the deal with the double circle? I'm a complete moron when it comes to math, but according to this, "Concentric circles demonstrate that twice infinity is the same as infinity". Oh boy. :bigeyes: Now if only I knew how to pronounce "JOIN symbol inside concentric circles".

EDIT: Asked Prim-kun about the MP Eva symbol and he said

I would say "Rei :infinity: is assigned to a natural join of the Eva's within the set defined by the concentric circles" so if they imply infinity then "Rei :infinity: is assigned to a super-Eva which consists of the natural join of all Eva's"
so I guess in an eva context, this would mean something like a super-Eva that has within it all the attributes that are common to all of the Evas from which the super-Eva is formed

Cue jokes about the MP Evas being like the Buster Legion and forming a giant Eva around the Black Moon. (The Black Moon is the entry plug and core, you see.) This Eva will then go Eva-13 on the now-completely coreified Moon, shrink it down to bite size, eat it, and then... who the fuck even knows.

Of course, emulating Diebuster won't be enough, and the entire planet will have to turn into an Eva and do something weird before the movie is over.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:22 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:Cue jokes about the MP Evas being like the Buster Legion and forming a giant Eva around the Black Moon. (The Black Moon is the entry plug and core, you see.) This Eva will then go Eva-13 on the now-completely coreified Moon, shrink it down to bite size, eat it, and then... who the fuck even knows.


O_o

Of course, emulating Diebuster won't be enough, and the entire planet will have to turn into an Eva and do something weird before the movie is over.


That sounds like an even crazier rehash of the scene in TTGL where the Moon turns out to be a fake moon and is really Lordgenome's super-duper-monster-space battleship, the Cathedral Terra.
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Postby chee » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:04 am

I really dig how clean and utilitarian the design is. Screams "cheapo mass-production unit" from the outset while still maintaining a striking appearance.

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Postby robersora » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:36 am

As always, tremendous findings, Reichu... At this point I'm almost more curious as to how Thrice Upon A Time will compare to your predictions than the movie as a stand alone event, lol.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:37 am

I don't think Eva Mark.10 is a mass production unit due to its unique armor configuration. Its chest and abdominal armor have m-shaped contours on the underside of each segment, at trait it shares with its predecessor Mark.09 and with Eva 13 but not with any of the mass produced Evas we've seen so far. All the ones we've seen (the ones that have torsos, at least) use the second generation style v-shaped chest and waist plates. They also have the normal two segments seen on most Evas while this one has the appearance of 3. Curiously the chest and upper abdominal segments seem to be fused together into one large armor plate which looks like an angry turtle face. :lol:

We can't tell if it has the older style forearm blades here or not, but if it doesn't, then this design is just a slightly modified variant of Eva Mark.09, which certainly lends to the idea that it's one of the Vessels. :asuka_thumbsup: I think it'll help immensely once we see the head from another angle to get a sense of depth. I suspect the "Angel Mask" is something of a trick. Mark.09's "transitional" form also has a sneaky Angel face on top of its head that you can only see from certain angles.
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