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Postby Kendrix » Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:43 pm

Regarding the "it's been done before" topic I can only say:
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One could draw a similar comic where the author is worrying about the thing being too derivative while the reader thumbing through the 10 millionth coffeeshop AU is like "Yes, this exactly scratches the itch!"

If you've got the time and the energy do it, even if you do a story that's been done before, you'll be giving it your own unique spin just by filtering it through your perception

Just get rid of the Asushin :devil:
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Postby amitakartok » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:07 pm

What, you don't like AsuShin?
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Postby amitakartok » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:21 pm

...had a silly mental image today when my mind remembered Shinji and WH40k from years past: take the same idea (Shinji finding fictional material at a young age that profoundly alters his personality) but genderflip it and replace WH40k with Gunbuster.

Thus the tentative title: Shinji Aims For The Top! (exclamation mark included)

It wouldn't be an instant characterization change, but a gradual one. Shinji's initial personality is kept, it's only the progression that's altered. Plus I thought it'd be funny if Asuka was Shinji's oneesama and the first time Shinji calls her as such, Asuka pauses... then goes "that's right, I am your better and it's a good thing you recognize the fact".

Though their relationship is less senpai/kouhai (though Shinji does think of Asuka as a senpai when it comes to piloting and pushes herself hard specifically to get her approval) and more "Shinji randomly going fucking nuts and Asuka pushing herself even harder to not fall behind".
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Postby Derantor » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:46 am

^It's been a long time since I've seen Gunbuster, but Noriko doesn't seem too different from Shinji in many ways. Where do you want to take his character? Do you aim more for a lighthearted take or a serious fic?

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Postby amitakartok » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:35 pm

That's still up for grabs, although I feel at least some level of seriousness would work best. Not completely serious, though; Shinji and Asuka mutually pushing each other to perform better and better (and possibly even the Angels upping their game in response) will inevitably result in NERV just collectively deciding to throw their hands up and stop trying to explain how their Evas are pulling off whatever they do. So, middle ground between serious and lighthearted.

As I explained elsewhere, I feel Noriko is a good fictional role model for Shinji not because she's badass, but because she started where he did and clawed her way up from there. She wasn't a failure early on because she couldn't hit the mark, but because she didn't believe she could and thus didn't even try, which caused others to not believe in her either, which in turn drove her to put herself down even further in a self-destructive spiral.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:11 pm

View Original Postamitakartok wrote:...had a silly mental image today when my mind remembered Shinji and WH40k from years past:


Lulz, and I was just thinking about that crazy fic! :lol: Man, that was quite an experience.

By the way, you should change Shinji to Shinjiko for this fic :wink:

It wouldn't be an instant characterization change, but a gradual one. Shinji's initial personality is kept, it's only the progression that's altered. Plus I thought it'd be funny if Asuka was Shinji's oneesama and the first time Shinji calls her as such, Asuka pauses... then goes "that's right, I am your better and it's a good thing you recognize the fact".

Though their relationship is less senpai/kouhai (though Shinji does think of Asuka as a senpai when it comes to piloting and pushes herself hard specifically to get her approval) and more "Shinji randomly going fucking nuts and Asuka pushing herself even harder to not fall behind".


This is a very interesting idea. The image of Shinjiko turning into Noriko and calling out Gunbuster attacks is a hard one to beat.

You've piqued my curiosity, sir. Go ahead!
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Postby amitakartok » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:37 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:By the way, you should change Shinji to Shinjiko for this fic :wink:


I don't name-change characters when genderbending them. In fact, for one of my stories I even came up with an excuse for why the character in question has a gender-inappropriate name.

This is a very interesting idea. The image of Shinjiko turning into Noriko and calling out Gunbuster attacks is a hard one to beat.

You've piqued my curiosity, sir. Go ahead!


Oh, I would if I could. I'm kinda suffering from depression-induced writer's block right now. I last updated my ongoing Eva fic in April and am trying to break the ice so fiercely that I've even started penning down a KawoAsu smut version of the upcoming chapter just to get my creative juices flowing.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:22 pm

View Original Postamitakartok wrote:I don't name-change characters when genderbending them. In fact, for one of my stories I even came up with an excuse for why the character in question has a gender-inappropriate name.


Come to think of it, I like this approach. Do carry on, I'm curious to see what you'll create, writer's block be damned.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:45 pm

"Shinjiko" isn't a true gender swap, incidentally. It's just a boy's name with "-ko" slapped into the end. "Shinko" is an actual girl's name. The -ji given name ending screams "male", but that makes those names pretty easy to feminize. Touji? Touko. Ryouji? Ryouko. Kouji? Kouko. Etc.
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Postby amitakartok » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:53 pm

And when people insist that FemKaworu should be Kaoruko instead of Kaori.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:57 pm

Kaworu is gender neutral in the first place so it's not like it even needs to be changed. Even less necessary with how much the character plays with the idea of androgyny. But yeah, "Kaori" is the way to go if the author insists upon changing it.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:42 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:"Shinjiko" isn't a true gender swap, incidentally.<snip>


That's interesting, I hadn't realized that -ko could be substituted for -ji and vice-versa to get the female and male versions of a particular name.

"Shinjiko" was something that I'd remembered from the old days of the forum and I'd used it more for nostalgia than as a purely serious suggestion. Synapsid, I think, had used that more than once.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:56 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:That's interesting, I hadn't realized that -ko could be substituted for -ji and vice-versa to get the female and male versions of a particular name.

I'm not sure if it will work for every single case, so it does help to check and make sure that a name actually exists before using it, but it's a useful rule of thumb nonetheless.
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Postby amitakartok » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:36 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:it does help to check and make sure that a name actually exists before using it


Which is why, when I need a name for an OC, I hit up a list of common Japanese given names.
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Postby MarqFJA87 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:53 pm

View Original Postamitakartok wrote:And when people insist that FemKaworu should be Kaoruko instead of Kaori.

While Kaoruko is an actual girl's name, Kaoru is unisex.

View Original PostReichu wrote:I'm not sure if it will work for every single case, so it does help to check and make sure that a name actually exists before using it, but it's a useful rule of thumb nonetheless.

The name doesn't strictly need to be real. There's no shortage of anime/manga characters of in-universe Japanese nationality that have made-up given and/or family names even in mundane modern-day settings.
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