S2 Engines Damage Memory?

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S2 Engines Damage Memory?

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Postby Tumbling Down » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:29 am

I was reading the TV Tropes section about Yui.
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This wasn't in the classified materials. Where did they get this? One of the video games?

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Postby Blockio » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:32 am

Tvtropes is a lot of fun to read, but it's best to not take everything on it at face value. I've seen numerous supposed ""Anno quotes"" on it that he most definitely never said, all in support of one or the other ship

Edit: I can't be bothered to look up which page I found it on, but according to one page, he supposedly outright stated that Shinji/Asuka were an official couple after Instrumentality. Needless to say, a whole bunch of bs, that.
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Postby Reichu » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:55 pm

I know what they're referring to, but the troper loses all credibility by presenting the information solely in the form of personalized extrapolations, leaving out the super-vague original context that can be interpreted any possible number of ways.

In Kaworu's PSP ending, he speaks with another Seed of Life who tells him, "Your soul ate too much of the Fruit of Life, and remember little of ancient matters". Note the "too much" part. Also note the "soul" part, which confounds interpretation further. While the Classified Information from the game says that the S2 Engine and the Fruit of Life are the same thing, we know that the S2 Engine is a fleshy physical body (which happens to reside within the core, incidentally the same place the soul does), so how could a "soul" possibly "eat" one? This almost makes it sound like the Fruit is possibly a spiritual factor that encodes FOR the physical organ, without being the organ per se. Spiritual transfer would also explain why the Angels, who received their souls from Adam's Chamber of Guf, develop S2 engines naturally, while Evas must procure one separately.

I'm as lost as any of you as to how Adam could have "eaten too much" of the FoL, or why this would produce memory loss. This "eating too much of" thing is used to, somewhat flimsily IMO, justify Lilith's presence on Earth, but the game AFAIK does nothing to justify how Adam could have done this in the first place or how Lilith could have pursued Adam to Earth for revenge, especially in light of the game's own claim that the Spears are supposed to act as controls upon the Seeds (which is a behavior the surviving spear suspiciously avoids in EoE). The FoL being used to explain Kaworu's faulty memory also doesn't feel like it takes the intricacies of forced soul transfer (especially after traumatic death) into account.

Those who want the context for all this, my YouTube channel has subtitled videos for Rei and Kaworu's PSP scenarios:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn6med28mqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svCqFUyjc8I


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