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Postby Trigger's Elysium » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:05 pm

Hey Reichu, just curious, how complicated is the kanji in Eva Chronicle? Do they provide any Hiragana or Katakana along with the kanji?
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Postby Ornette » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:08 pm

NAveryW wrote:An added closeup of her eye, like in the Shinji-on-Rei-on-floor shot in the trailer?

Well, kinda like this:
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But it happened so fast, I can't positively say it was the same cut.

EDIT: Also, if I were somehow able to go to Japan while the movie's still playing, would I be able to get in if I don't know anyone who knows Japanese?

I don't know, *maybe* in a touristy place like Kyoto, but I haven't ran into anyone in Nagoya that speaks English.

My Japanese is pretty much non-existent, but doesn't the "ga" make it sound like "nihongo" doesn't understand? As opposed to the "wa" that makes "nihongo" the subject of "doesn't understand"? I dunno, rockthing says it sounds awkward with a "ga".
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Postby Reichu » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:09 pm

Trigger's Elysium wrote:Hey Reichu, just curious, how complicated is the kanji in Eva Chronicle? Do they provide any Hiragana or Katakana along with the kanji?

Doesn't Chronicle have its own thread?

No, there are no furigana. Although if you run the text through an Asian OCR (I got pretty good results with mine), you can look the kanji up without (usually) too much fuss.

...why do you ask?
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Postby Trigger's Elysium » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:13 pm

Reichu wrote:Doesn't Chronicle have its own thread?

Eh, you brought it up a few replies ago, so I guess I kinda took it upon myself to ask now...

Reichu wrote:...why do you ask?

Well, a good friend of mine (who's an Eva fan, also) is decent at Japanese, and he's currently working on a few Japanese rom hack translations, actually. Thing is, he's no good at kanji, and usually can't do too much without furigana, so if there was any of that, I was willing to see what he could do. I guess I could show him the scans and see what he can make of them, because he's gotten better lately, but I really can't promise anything.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:26 pm

Trigger's Elysium wrote:Eh, you brought it up a few replies ago, so I guess I kinda took it upon myself to ask now...

Oh, the Proposal being printed in Chronicle and all?

Well, a good friend of mine <snip>

If the text is in a digital format (as opposed to being a graphic or whatever), he shouldn't have any excuses ;), since there are plenty of ways to look kanji up that just involve copy + paste. If he were interested in tackling the Proposal, I could theoretically furnish straight text. (Though I appear to have accidentally deleted that one page I prepared while testing my OCR... Crap.)

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Postby NAveryW » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:41 pm

Reichu wrote:You could pay for my expenses and we could wing it.
You know, I'm almost actually considering that. Almost. I'm not really considering that. I'm considering considering that.

Sometimes I like to pretend I can actually do things...

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:38 am

Nah, Asuka's still gonna be around.

She's just probably going to the one of the lead three pilots to get the largest rewrite. So far Shinji's still the definite lead (And All Is Right With the World) and from what I've heard there isn't too much new original Rei scenes in Eva 1.0.

But with Eva 2.0 you got insane escalation with not only three more angels but brand new plot points, returning characters and then the characters properly getting introduced in the next film.

Kaworu's gonna get a boost if he's in the movie (and not shoehorned in at the last scene to speak some cryptic BS and get people hyped for Part 3), not sure what role the new girl is going to play but I can't see her being an official love interest for Shinji. Asuka's probably going to be more like her manga counterpart and just be a highly volatile addition to the cast.

I'm still thinking somehow that with Film 1 essentially being heavily focused on Rei and Shinji and the next films being highly plot heavy I'm leaning towards thinking the two key relationships in the movies are Shinji/Misato and Shinji/Rei.


P.S. In a move that has shocked no one, EVANGELION 1.0 took #1 at Japanese box office this weekend making 280 million yen at 84 locations (thats like $2.4 million). Apparently many theaters even sold out all their tickets. This means over a quarter of a million people have been lucky enough to see the film before I have. Damn. Its been a long weekend.

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Postby Reichu » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:00 am

Hay, GP. 2.0 speculation. Goes into. Its thread.
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Postby Ornette » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:17 am

Was at a Lawson's today and saw this magazine all about the Evangelion pachinko machines and some other slot machine, it was like 100 pages or so 590yen, had a ton of funny pictures, but there were also 4 pages with rebuild info. Probably nothing new, but since I didn't have a scanner, had to use a camera:

http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_1.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_2.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_3.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_4.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_alt_1.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_alt_2.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_alt_3.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_alt_4.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_alt_posters.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_cover.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_posters.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_random.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_random2.jpg
http://www.tesuji.org/japan_2007/eva_pachinko_mag_random3.jpg

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Postby JP » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:49 am

Any word on the music?

You know, as 01 rushes Sachiel, I want to hear my (EEE EER EER EEE EER EEE EER) DUM DUDDA DUM DUM DAH DUDDA DUM etc
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Postby Ayana-Me » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:31 pm

Heisei Democracy review wrote:so it’s nice to see that the Japanese animation industry has followed suit with its live-action industry in whoring themselves to anyone with a buck. There’s even piles of UCC cans in the NERV bunker where they plan their attack on the third Angel.

Not really a new trend, dude. Have you ever seen Akira? Kaneda's bike represented half of corporate Japan (Canon, Citizen, Shoei, etc.)

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:16 pm

@ JP: Please see the Rebuild Music thread (Songs and Music for Rebuild?).
http://evageeks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3187

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:41 pm

btw: I think the sauce was on ANN but it might have been EML (either way I can't find it at the moment) but apparently Rebuild 01 will be shown internationally. Somewhere in Eurpoe, IIRC.
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Postby Szmitten » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:22 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:btw: I think the sauce was on ANN but it might have been EML (either way I can't find it at the moment) but apparently Rebuild 01 will be shown internationally. Somewhere in Eurpoe, IIRC.


A little film festival (probably) hardly constitutes an international release surely.

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Postby NAveryW » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:24 pm

Still, it'd probably be easier for me to fly to Europe to see it than Japan, as I know English and some French, and my mother knows a decent amount of Spanish.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:46 pm

I believe it was some film festival, yes. But of course the subject heading described as an OMG International Release. :roll:
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Postby NAveryW » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:22 pm

There was something on ANN about it being shown somewhere else in Asia for a film festival, but that's not any more helpful... >_>

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Postby Shawn Dudley » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:53 pm

There was something on ANN about it being shown somewhere else in Asia for a film festival, but that's not any more helpful... >_>


It's in Korea actually, and it's being shown on the last day of the Film Festival (don't remember that name, but it's this month). No other announcements about overseas releases beyond that.
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Postby Avatar of Dreams » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:28 pm

You mean the Pusan International film festival?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pusan_International_Film_Festival

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Postby Opteron-O3 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:02 am

Me want US Release!
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