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The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby JP » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:49 pm

Tokpile Quohog wrote:Just a stupid question here from an idiot. I understand the basic idea behind the term "CGI" but what is it? Is it the utilization of 3D models or is it an umbrella term for everything created with the aid of a computer?

And for me, using CGI in REbuild isn't something I'm really against due to the sheer amount of military equipment, vehicles, and mechanical things involved. I just don't want it to be overdone.


Computer Generated Imagry/ Computer Graphics involves both 3d models as well as 2d art. All of it involves the aid of a computer though. The plus side, at least for 2d stuff, is everything usually looks a lot crisper, but it sometimes loses the "detail" of handdrawn animation. It's really a prefence imo, both look great.
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Postby NAveryW » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:52 pm

Actually, Brik, the Evas aren't CG. That suprised me, but I think it was the better decision.
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Postby BrikHaus » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:04 pm

Really? They look pretty CG-tastic when Eva-01 is on the lift, and when we are given the close-up of the prog knife. But you know more about this kind of thing than I do, so I'll have to take your word for it.
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Postby Ornette » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:10 pm

JP wrote:The plus side, at least for 2d stuff, is everything usually looks a lot crisper, but it sometimes loses the "detail" of handdrawn animation. It's really a prefence imo, both look great.

I don't think anything is animated via hand drawn these days, anime studios have been moving to animating on computers since Fuji stopped making the cells in 2001 or so. It's possible that some things are still hand drawn, then scanned into a computer to be touched up, inked, etc.

CG is a blanket term for a field of graphics generated on a computer. CGI is an application of that field. But people commonly misuse them to the point of it becoming household.

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Postby NAveryW » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:13 pm

BrikHaus wrote:Really? They look pretty CG-tastic when Eva-01 is on the lift, and when we are given the close-up of the prog knife. But you know more about this kind of thing than I do, so I'll have to take your word for it.

It's sometimes harder to tell with still frames (in fact, cell shaded still frames can often look identical to hand-drawn stills), but when something is actually moving, it's usually not that difficult to tell. CG animation is more perfect than any human can make it, hence its different look. Human-drawn animation always has slight jumps in the outlines, slight changes in the proportions, etc. Human creations are flawed; it's unavoidable.
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Postby Jobhug » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:38 pm

Szmitten wrote:Here's a Hi-Res download:

[url]http://stage6.divx.com/user/killte/video/1413197/Evangelion-new-movie-preview[/url]


I SPEEEEELED MY DREENK

AKA so very sold on the visuals

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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:11 pm

Heh, this goes to show just how crappy the previously seen recording was. Ramiel's perfectly okay (And looking gorgeous!), Shamshel seems to fall flat after being killed (Offscreen: why else are his tentacles just sticking in Eva-01?) and Shinji isn't in black LCL at all!

On the flip side, why does Tokyo-3 rising seem somewhat less spectacular in high-res? Maybe it's just me. Anyway, the Evas look better than ever.

And hey...what's with the rainbows? Sachi's self-destruct X-blast is now red, and there's a rainbow going up with it! The same is seen with static Eva-01 with Shamshel's tentacles sticking in it. Does a rainbow mean an Angel is killed?

The rainbow: A symbol that a great flood shall never happen again. Garden of Eden symbolism. What exactly is rebuild aiming at?

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Postby Katayoku no Tenshi » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:28 pm

^ It's God's bow, who do you think he will shoot? :P

Black LCL? It looks more like the semi psychedelic activation images to me, especially how it begins fading to white just before it cuts out (Good trailer is Good) You know when it goes all Zebra patterend and such?

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Postby Toonces » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:51 pm

UrsusArctos wrote:On the flip side, why does Tokyo-3 rising seem somewhat less spectacular in high-res? Maybe it's just me. Anyway, the Evas look better than ever.


Yeah, I dunno, I was thinking the same exact thing.

The trailer is still gorgeous, just that part looks a little funny.
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Postby machinamar » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:00 pm

I guess the LCL isn't black. Too bad. D: I also agree, Tokyo•3 doesn't look as good as it did in the darkened bootleg trailer, but it's still nice.

Did anyone else notice something strange about the vocals in the hi•res trailer? Utada Hikaru seems to be singing in almost a different key in the new version -- in any case, there's definitely a big change in the vocals that can't really be explained by just quality difference alone.

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Postby CorporalChaos » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:38 pm

machinamar wrote:Tokyo•3 doesn't look as good as it did in the darkened bootleg trailer, but it's still nice.


Should we put this off to the Batman effect, where the city doesn't look as cool as it could if it were dark?

Anyway, really nice find, who said that Friday the 13ths were unlucky.
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Postby TriLink » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:44 pm

Sho almost looks like a zombie the way she's walking around 01:07. And Misato and Sachiel definitely look the best in my opinion.
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Postby PsyBear » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:52 pm

very nice trailer, if you want to download directly the video, just do right click on the following link and then save the destination

http://divx-864.vo.llnwd.net/stage6vid/1413197.divx

If the story is good as this trailer, it's gonna be a really good movie... lol

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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:56 pm

machinamar wrote:Did anyone else notice something strange about the vocals in the hi•res trailer? Utada Hikaru seems to be singing in almost a different key in the new version -- in any case, there's definitely a big change in the vocals that can't really be explained by just quality difference alone.


Utada's singing it in two different voices, all right. That second voice of hers comes through either the left or the right audio channel, comes and goes. It was wierd.

The 'zombie' description fits Sho's walking. She's either a little woozy from Sachiel's self-destruction, or that's the way she prefers walking. Or maybe the heat haze from the blast is distorting everything.

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Postby Jobhug » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:13 pm

Man, when that thing fires it's going to be EPIC

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Postby machinamar » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:14 pm

>Should we put this off to the Batman effect, where the city doesn't look as cool as it could if it were dark?
Pretty much. :3

>The 'zombie' description fits Sho's walking. She's either a little woozy from Sachiel's self-destruction, or that's the way she prefers walking.
Personally, that's my favorite part of the trailer: Sho emerging from the destruction, stepping forward like a limp marionette, walking in time with the the strains of violin strings crying in the foreground. Gorgeous. It really evokes a mess of emotions.

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Postby AuthenticM » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:45 pm

Have you guys noticed how there are so much more people in Tokyo-3? Check at 0:30.
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Postby The Goose » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:50 pm

Have you guys noticed how there are so much more people in Tokyo-3? Check at 0:30.


We are not alone indeed. I couldn't let it slide. :lol: In the original series, the city looked really deserted which helped so how lonely everyone was when they walked on the streets. Maybe Gainax is doing the opposite.

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Postby Katayoku no Tenshi » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:55 pm

^ Anno feels better now he has all that money ...and you know being married and such. :lol:

Perhaps they felt a slowly emptying city would be more effective than an empty city? I mean what reason did they have to leave before Sachiel appeared anyway?
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Postby NAveryW » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:10 am

The Goose wrote:
Have you guys noticed how there are so much more people in Tokyo-3? Check at 0:30.


We are not alone indeed. I couldn't let it slide. :lol: In the original series, the city looked really deserted which helped so how lonely everyone was when they walked on the streets. Maybe Gainax is doing the opposite.

I think it still seemed pretty lonely in EoE when Shinji is there with the huge crowd of people walking past him.
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