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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:18 am

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Postby KRandMJ » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:54 pm

Does anyone know what was the initial spark for this film's production?
Did Anno push Toho into making this movie, or vice versa?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Vice versa. Anno actually initially turned down Toho on the opportunity to direct a Godzilla movie. Anno said in a statement that he was too depressed at the time to do much of anything. SSD posted a translation of Anno's statements here.
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Postby KRandMJ » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:35 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote: SSD posted a translation of Anno's statements here.

"In December 2012, after Eva Q's premiere, I was broken. It's called, falling into a depressive state. For 6 years of again making Eva, my soul received its just desserts."

Did Eva-Q had that big of a backlash?

View Original PostXard wrote:"We'd like you to be director of the new Godzilla film" was the direct request from people of Toho that I got.
"It's impossible. I also have to work on Eva, I can't do this" is how I declined on the spot, being mentally unstable to boot.
However, I was moved by Toho's sincerity and enthusiasm of co-director Shinji Higuchi and thus I ended up accepting the job in March of the same year

Did Anno ever elaborate on that statement?
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:57 pm

View Original PostKRandMJ wrote:Did Eva-Q had that big of a backlash?

At this point "the backlash" is basically a western hater myth. In Japan Q was enormously successful at the box office, with the critics, and even won Anno some awards.

Anno's exhaustion is from the actual creating, not from the reaction to the creation.
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Postby Sachi » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:00 am

View Original PostKRandMJ wrote:"In December 2012, after Eva Q's premiere, I was broken. It's called, falling into a depressive state. For 6 years of again making Eva, my soul received its just desserts."

Did Eva-Q had that big of a backlash?

I don't think it was any "backlash" that left Anno broken, but rather that he had to send himself into some dark places emotionally in order to produce Q which completely drained him by the end of the experience.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:16 am

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:At this point "the backlash" is basically a western hater myth.

It appears as though western civilization is the only place where Eva haters tend to amass any meaningful presence. While I'm sure there are pockets pf people in Japan that despise Evangelion, the only place I've seen it gain actual ground is in Western societies. In this sense, Evangelion getting backlash is only true when Westerners make it true, but Anno himself getting any direct backlash from these westerners is very unlikely.

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:29 am

Another look at the Eva G figures:
http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-4674.html

I'm torn on these. The sculpts and detailing are fantastic, but the armor design feels really half-assed to me.

And I guess this is a thing? Kind of looks like a painted gourd:
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Edit! Ah! Apparently it's a Goya that they referenced for the skin texture. GoyaGoji. :lol:
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:40 pm

Track listing
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If i'm reading this properly, we're going to get a lot of oldschool tracks in this film

01.Persecution of the masses (1172)/上陸
02.ゴジラ上陸/「ゴジラ」/進化
03.11174_rhythm+melody_demo/対峙
04.Early morning from Tokyo (short)/報道1
05.11174_light_edit_demo/索敵
06.EM20_rhythm_GZM/組織結成
07.EM20_Jerry_GZM/情報供与
08.ゴジラ復活す/「キングコング対ゴジラ」/再上陸
09.ゴジラ登場/「メカゴジラの逆襲」/脅威
10.Black Angels (Feb_10_1211)/作戦準備
11.Fob_01/タバ作戦
12.Defeat is no option (1197)/進攻
13.Who will know (24_bigslow)/悲劇
14.SS_103_GZM (Famously)/報道2
15.EM20_Godzilla/再始動
16.EM20_CH_alterna_01/巨災対
17.EM20_CH_alterna_03/報告
18.EM20_CH_alterna_04/共闘
19.宇宙大戦争/「宇宙大戦争」/ヤシオリ作戦
20.Under a Burning Sky (11174_battle)/特殊建機第1小隊
21.Under a Burning Sky (11174_orchestra)/特殊建機第2・3小隊
22.Omni_00/終局
23.ゴジラ・タイトル/「ゴジラ」/終曲その1
24.メインタイトル/「三大怪獣・地球最大の決戦」/終曲その2
25.メインタイトル/「怪獣大戦争」/終曲その3
26.メインタイトル/「ゴジラVSメカゴジラ」/終曲その4
27.Under a Burning Sky (11174_rhythm_united_choir) (ボーナストラック)
28.Early morning from Tokyo (ボーナストラック)
29.EM20_rhythm_GZM_full (ボーナストラック)
30.EM20_Jerry_GZM_full (ボーナストラック)
31.Who will know (24_bigslow_strings) (ボーナストラック)
32.Under a Burning Sky (11174_united_choir) (ボーナストラック)
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:54 pm

If anyone has any skill translating from Japanese this Scified article mentions two early reviews of SHIN GODZILLA that say it is an "unprecedented masterpiece". Would love to see if that's an accurate translation.

http://www.scified.com/news/shin-godzilla-world-premiere

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Postby robersora » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:20 pm

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The headline of this article says so, yes.
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Postby hui43210 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:48 pm

From the sounds of that article, this movie is going to get the same reaction as 3.0. It's a Japanese film made for the Japanese audience, Japan will get it, but average westerner who isn't a japanophile will find it boring. Honestly.... This makes me even more excited because I know this is exactly the kind of movie I want to watch!
Is the 3.0 spoiler policy gone?.... Cool, then I'm nominating myself as EvaGeeks 1# Sakura Suzuhara fan/nerd.

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Postby KRandMJ » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:24 pm



Anno's like :asuka_stare:
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Anyone have pic with better quality? This needs to be a painting
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:49 am

View Original Posthui43210 wrote:From the sounds of that article, this movie is going to get the same reaction as 3.0. It's a Japanese film made for the Japanese audience, Japan will get it, but average westerner who isn't a japanophile will find it boring. Honestly.... This makes me even more excited because I know this is exactly the kind of movie I want to watch!

I'm not getting that vibe from the article at all, everyone who even pays half-attention to the news surrounding Japan's disasters recently should be able to understand the film. I don't see anywhere that makes it sound like it's a "Japanese-only" experience.
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Postby hui43210 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:18 am

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:I'm not getting that vibe from the article at all, everyone who even pays half-attention to the news surrounding Japan's disasters recently should be able to understand the film. I don't see anywhere that makes it sound like it's a "Japanese-only" experience.


It says at the top, western "insiders" who "claim" to to have seen apparently didn't like it, but I have no idea if that's true, so who knows. But at the very end of the article the author states to check your expectations as its seems to be a story focused Japanese film, but most of them are, so I don't know, I think he's getting at don't expect Godzillia to fight another monster, and don't expect it to be all action.

Edit: never mind, I stand by my first statement, read the last paragraph called personal note
Is the 3.0 spoiler policy gone?.... Cool, then I'm nominating myself as EvaGeeks 1# Sakura Suzuhara fan/nerd.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:35 am

Probably the biggest hurdle Anno's Godzilla will have to fight in the West is the entitlement & ignorance people have regarding special effects. Because the Japanese film industry can't compete with the $200 million budget of a film like Gareth Edward's Godzilla 2014 that was able to create photorealist images of Godzilla at several million dollars a shot they didn't even try & went with a more classic looking effects style. Yes, one look at this Godzilla in action & the viewer isn't going "Oh my, is that really happening right now! It looks so real!" but the effects are still astounding!

I think a lot of people here in the West will shut themselves off to the whole New Godzilla movie simply because "The effects look so fake!"

Their loss.

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Postby Xxx_Generic Name_Xxx » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:45 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Probably the biggest hurdle Anno's Godzilla will have to fight in the West is the entitlement & ignorance people have regarding special effects. Because the Japanese film industry can't compete with the $200 million budget of a film like Gareth Edward's Godzilla 2014 that was able to create photorealist images of Godzilla at several million dollars a shot they didn't even try & went with a more classic looking effects style. Yes, one look at this Godzilla in action & the viewer isn't going "Oh my, is that really happening right now! It looks so real!" but the effects are still astounding!

I think a lot of people here in the West will shut themselves off to the whole New Godzilla movie simply because "The effects look so fake!"

Their loss.

Because people think that fancy CG effect=the best film evah.
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