Funimation: Evangelion 3.33 coming out February 2 2016

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Postby Ray » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:25 am

^Screw that! Is the God Warrior short film included?


Given the Ghibli/Disney copyright? I doubt it, not even Seele has patience enough to deal with Disney lawyers.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:59 am

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:^Screw that! Is the God Warrior short film included?


How was it made more clear in the English dub? Was it the editing of the sound, or what? (My gut instinct still tells me that it's Rei from within Unit 01 speaking, but there's so little information given to the viewer about ReiQ specifically in this film that anything's possible.)


It's a combination of the sound editing and the way she speaks. The effect added to her voice is the same or very similar in all three lines, first two lines are delivered in Rei Q's flat, monotone style, and there's just something about the way she says "Shinji Ikari, where are you?" that makes it sound like she's not familiar with him.

Neither of the shorts is included, sadly. There's a substantial collection of trailers, The Rebuild of Evangelion 3.33 featurette, and the Eva Extra 08 video. Nice to see it when it's not projected on the side of a building but man, did they have to include the full minute long countdown? :lol:

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:"Listen closely, Shinji. From this moment on, you do nothing"


That sounds like a much better handling of Misato's line. The biggest misunderstanding people have about 3.33 is that Misato has become "a bitch who doesn't care about Shinji anymore".

I'm of the mind that she's feeling too much and is stricken with fear about to properly act around Shinji since she played such a major role in destroying his chances for a normal/happy life.


I agree. Misato's angrier than I would have liked compared to the Japanese version, but she doesn't come across as being malicious or intentionally cruel to me. It's more like she's hiding behind an iron shell that's been tempered by hardship and she has to act tough to hold things together.
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:10 am

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:*Subs: Mari tells Rei to get out of Mark.09 before she becomes part of the Vessel.

You mean this isn't said in the dub?
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Postby robersora » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:40 am

Thank you very much!! Pretty intriguing stuff, but nothing too surprising.
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Postby Sicarius VI » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:12 pm

Thanks a lot Blue, but they never did get around to the scene with Shinji die! v Shinji take your punishment!

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:49 pm

^ You're welcome! ^_^ And I know! I was hoping the dub would clear up that mess but we're right back where we started. I greatly prefer the dub line myself. It doesn't make much sense for her to just yell DIE considering her actions in that scene and the rest of the movie.

View Original PostArcadia's legacy wrote:You mean this isn't said in the dub?


No. That line was unchanged from the first dub. "Hey, little miss provisional Seele pilot! You can hear me, right? I'd think about getting out of that Eva, before it goes all Vessel of the Adams."
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Postby robersora » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:13 pm

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote: "Hey, little miss provisional Seele pilot! You can hear me, right? I'd think about getting out of that Eva, before it goes all Vessel of the Adams."

Is that the literal line? lol
I'm not a native speaker, so I ask: does this sound like a native English speaker would talk? (besides the jargon, of course).
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:22 pm

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:No. That line was unchanged from the first dub."

Quite surprising that Khara would leave a line as intruiging as "Get out, or you'll become apart of the vessel" out of the dub
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Postby Yaywalter » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:59 pm

Sounds like most of the changes were for the better. Rightstuf just shipped my copy, so I am excite.

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Postby Reichu » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:02 pm

During the fan translation process, there was a conflict between whether Asuka tells Shinji to "die" or not. Far as I could tell, there wasn't anything about dying in there, but if even Kanemitsu is going with the "die" version, I guess there must be something to it.

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:*Here's an interesting one. The Vessel is "The Vessel of the Adams" in the dub but "Adams' Vessel" in the HV subs.

I remember fighting for "Adams' Vessel" in the initial fan translation. Pretty cool that it was Kanemitsu's choice as well.

The Doors of Guf are the "Gates of Guf" in both sub and dub. They pronounce it "Goff."

Plural and everything, huh? Talk about confusing. Plus you'd think that, since it leads to a "chamber", "door" would be the better choice. I dislike this, but nothing I can do about it, I suppose.

Misato sounds frustrated at Shinji after the Vessel is dislodged. She just says, "Shinji," but you can hear the implied, "God damn it, Shinji." :lol:

Is this right before the scene switches to Kaworu's final words? Misato growling out "Shinji" was there in the theater dub and it was totally at odds with the ambiguous original. Really irritated me. Of all the things to leave alone and not redub...
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:32 pm

^That's the one. Right after Ritsuko says they can't pursue because the engine needs time to recover.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was plural all three times. "Unit 01 opened the Gates of Guf," etc.

I can see why they might opt for "Vessel of the Adams" in the dub. Unless you always preface it with "the," it doesn't really sound different from "Adam's Vessel," and lord knows we don't need the thing to cause any more confusion!
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Postby Reichu » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:44 pm

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:I can see why they might opt for "Vessel of the Adams" in the dub. Unless you always preface it with "the," it doesn't really sound different from "Adam's Vessel," and lord knows we don't need the thing to cause any more confusion!

Pronouncing "Adams' Vessel" as "Adamses Vessel" would have been an option. It sounds awkward, yes, but so does "Vessel of the Adams".
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Postby KRandMJ » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:54 pm

Does the Blu-Ray have any sort of commentary?
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:15 pm

Unfortunately no. No commentary track of any kind. It has one English track and one Japanese track. You can get a look at the extras in this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KqqgcI_vFs

A reddit user took photos of the booklet included with the movie: http://imgur.com/a/ryln9 It's not very different from the one we've already seen. There's a new intro page, the Evas have the titles under their names translated, and "Wille's People" has been changed to "Wille Personnel." I think the sound track info and lyrics after the "Rebuild of 3.33" feature were left out and replaced with a two-page spread of Kaworu and Shinji instead.

The pictures of Unit 02 reminded me of something cute I'd forgotten. When Asuka goes out in Unit 02 Improved to work on the engine, she says "Iiiiiiiit's showtime!" in a happy sing-song voice. It's pretty adorable. ^_^
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Postby Ray » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:20 pm

Seriously? 2.0 had a commentary track with the voice actors.

I guess Anno didn't want to risk them leaking spoilers and hints unconsciously.
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Postby svenge » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:26 pm

View Original PostRay wrote:Seriously? 2.0 had a commentary track with the voice actors.


The English dub voice actors, though. No one should give a fuck about what they say, as they had nothing to do with the movie's production to begin with. And let's not forget the "Commentary of Doom®" that the Manga Ent. release of The End of Evangelion got...

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Postby KRandMJ » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:43 pm

View Original Postsvenge wrote:The English dub voice actors, though. No one should give a fuck about what they say, as they had nothing to do with the movie's production to begin with. And let's not forget the "Commentary of Doom®" that the Manga Ent. release of The End of Evangelion got...

What about the English voice actors elaborating on Asuka's final line?

With how everyone is eager for any information Eva related, a 3.33 English commentary would be better than nothing.

View Original Postsvenge wrote:let's not forget the "Commentary of Doom®" that the Manga Ent. release of The End of Evangelion got...

...Got what?
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Postby Reichu » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:25 pm

View Original PostKRandMJ wrote:...Got what?

Both D&R and EoE got commentaries from Amanda Winn-Lee, her husband Jason Lee, and Taliesin Jaffe. The latter did attempt to inject educational content here and there, but the first two mostly joked throughout. The tracks have some entertainment value, but perhaps it would've been better to do two separate ones: an actually serious track (with as much care taken to the included material as possible, i.e. no idle mentions of chronic fan misinterpretations), and a "drunk" commentary track for the silly stuff.

Question: Does the BD use the translation "spear" or "lance"? (I can't for the life of me remember what the theater dub used...)
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:52 pm

I'll have to double-check tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure they used "spear." That's what I had written in my notes, anyway. The theatrical dub used "lance." Kaworu pronounces Longinus as "Lon-jai-nus" instead of "lonj-inus."
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Postby KRandMJ » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:32 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Both D&R and EoE got commentaries from Amanda Winn-Lee, her husband Jason Lee, and Taliesin Jaffe. The latter did attempt to inject educational content here and there, but the first two mostly joked throughout. The tracks have some entertainment value, but perhaps it would've been better to do two separate ones: an actually serious track (with as much care taken to the included material as possible, i.e. no idle mentions of chronic fan misinterpretations), and a "drunk" commentary track for the silly stuff.


That bad? :cringe: ...Wow
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