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Postby Timesplitter 01 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:38 am

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Executor wrote:Hmm, let's see... Really good graphics, with several really good games, like Lost Planet, Gears of War, the ported version of FEAR, etc. Vs the Wii, whos graphics are nearly as good, and instead requires purely on really good gameplay.
It's a tough call, and I'm sure TriLink could explain it better than I could about the Wii's capabilities, but I eventually went with the 360. Elite.


Hmm, I might end up getting the 360, but still not sure... Thanks btw ;)

They need to make a good Evangelion Game for Counsel systems; something similar to Mechwarrior or something of that nature.

Evangelion MMO anyone? Probably not. Just a thought ;)


You can get a xbox360 but be warned at lot of them have broken down after a year. Up to you really.

By the way before anyone hits on the PS2, mine lasted 6 years without problems.
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Postby slothen » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:48 pm

my original NES and gamboy work just fine.
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Postby Opteron-O3 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:43 pm

Timesplitter 01 wrote:You can get a xbox360 but be warned at lot of them have broken down after a year. Up to you really.

By the way before anyone hits on the PS2, mine lasted 6 years without problems.


I had thoughts about the Ps3 but the price doesn't catch me.
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Postby Mundane » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:47 pm

Honestly I don't see why people are that turned off by $200, I mean, you'd spend that much on four games anyway.

Like I said, they might just discontinue 20gig PS3's and make all 60gigs and drop them to $400, pray dude.

Because the games coming out Q4 RAPE.
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Postby Executor » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:39 pm

Mundane wrote:Honestly I don't see why people are that turned off by $200, I mean, you'd spend that much on four games anyway.

Like I said, they might just discontinue 20gig PS3's and make all 60gigs and drop them to $400, pray dude.

Because the games coming out Q4 RAPE.


Isnt the only reason why the PS3 is so expensive is because of the Blu-ray player?

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Postby Mundane » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:24 pm

Apparently, it's also the most expensive system out there to produce, the Blu-Ray probably takes up a huge chunk of that, but I'm not a tech junkie.

All I know is that when developers quit bitching about the cell processor, games will look like friggin' CG all the time. If anyone remembers the whole Dreamcast/PS2 bit, developers all loved the Dreamcast because it was easy to develop on, and the PS2 really hard. Look which system thrived.

Main guy bitchin' about it is the Final Fantasy guy though, and you can't milk a franchise forever, so he better find a new cash cow.
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Postby Executor » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:49 pm

I'd really contend that the only reason that PS2 did so well against the Dreamcast was
A): The PS2 having an intergrated DVD played.

B): It was the obvious sucessor to the legendary PlayStation (Which I still own and enjoy to this day.)

C) The Saga Saturn, despite having quite a few really quality games, for the most part performed badly because it was a cast-iron bitch to proogram with, hence wwhy the Dreamcast did was so easy to work with. Sega learned their hard-earned lessons. Also, the Saturn was more Expensive, at $400 smackers when it came out, vs the PlayStation being $300. Lastly, the Saturn simpley did not have enough great games for it to compeate with both the PlayStation and N64. (Granted, Panzer Dragoon Saga was onew of the best RPGs ever, but good fucking luck trying to get it under 300 dollers now.)

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Postby Mundane » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:21 pm

A.) Doubt people bought it just for the DVD player, it is a nice commodity, but the PS2 DVD player is.. Pretty hard to work with.

B.) Agreed.

C.) Agreed.

But another point that was slammed by developers was the ease to program and I'd like to hammer that little point home.
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Postby Executor » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:38 pm

Mundane wrote:A.) Doubt people bought it just for the DVD player, it is a nice commodity, but the PS2 DVD player is.. Pretty hard to work with.


Yeah, but at the time (2000), it was the only one on a game console. Most DVD players at that time were hellishly expensive, and the PS2 apparently was much cheaper than a standard one.

Agreed on the fact it was hard to navigate with.


But another point that was slammed by developers was the ease to program and I'd like to hammer that little point home.


I still really do think that SEGA would still be major console developer if the Saturn had turned out much better, but it just really did not pan out. Besides, IIRC, the Dreamcast was I think, about the same price as the PS2. How PS2 still did so well, despite not having really all that many great games at launch, still out-did Sega, what with games like Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Soul Calibur, and Virtua fighter. Hell, the Dreamcast version of DOA2 was better than the PS2 version. (The PS2 version, which has the subtitle of hardcore, had hellish glare, compared to the Dreamcast version.)

(And, for the record, I dont own a Dreamcast, but my friend has one, and we had a great time playing Soul Calibur on that. Nightmare FTW.)

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Postby TriLink » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:57 pm

Mundane wrote:Honestly I don't see why people are that turned off by $200, I mean, you'd spend that much on four games anyway.

Because to most normal people (me), $200 is a ton of money. When you consider that most gamers are men in the 15-30 range, their obviously not going to be pulling in the big bucks quite yet. And it's not like your getting a heck of a whole lot more for your money compared to a 360. Most people would rather wait until Blu Ray or HD-DVD players come down in price, rather then be forced to buy one if they want a PS3.
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Postby Executor » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:05 pm

True, but at least there is reason to buy one now, and that would be good games. But it is still not replacing my Y-Box ;-)

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Postby MaggotMaster » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:35 pm

BUMPING MONTH DEAD THREAD BECAUSE APPARENTLY ITS BETTER THAN MAKING A NEW ONE

LOL THE GUY ABOVE ME IS BANNED

Anyway, have I mentioned how Starcraft 2 is gonna be horrible because they're unlikely to innovate on the 10 year old engine, also it looks like a Warcraft 3 mod
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Postby THE Hal E. Burton 9000 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:11 pm

^ So how long will you be hanging around this forum before you disappear again for a few months? :wink:
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Postby slothen » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:46 pm

whats starcraft?
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Postby Vane » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:01 pm

MaggotMaster wrote:Anyway, have I mentioned how Starcraft 2 is gonna be horrible because they're unlikely to innovate on the 10 year old engine, also it looks like a Warcraft 3 mod


Don't fix what's not broken. Seriously, tons of people still play the first Starcraft, and if they change the gameplay to much it will die out. I'm curious if it will feel like a new game or like the original.

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Postby THE Hal E. Burton 9000 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:00 pm

slothen wrote:whats starcraft?
*record scratch* You've NEVER heard of Starcraft?! :shock: (The box cover used to be MAGGOTMASTER's avatar!) Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft

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Postby MaggotMaster » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:44 pm

Vane wrote:Don't fix what's not broken. Seriously, tons of people still play the first Starcraft, and if they change the gameplay to much it will die out. I'm curious if it will feel like a new game or like the original.

Oh but nowadays the original SC engine *IS* broken, its outdated as hell, just because people play it doesn't mean it shouldn't be fixed.

Squad based combat is how RTS's should work anyway.
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Postby MaggotMaster » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:45 pm

Expanding on this, Starcraft is an excellent game for its time, deal is, that time was TEN YEARS AGO, I'm not going to pay full price for the same game but in 3D
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Postby Vane » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:55 pm

MaggotMaster wrote:Expanding on this, Starcraft is an excellent game for its time, deal is, that time was TEN YEARS AGO, I'm not going to pay full price for the same game but in 3D


You would be surprised how many people do pay full price for basically the same game. Look at all the Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey games coming out pretty much every year, they're all really the same but with a few more 'features'. Yet people still buy these games for $59.99.

Starcraft right now feels like it's fan service, but we will find out if that is all it is when it hits store shelves.

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Postby CorporalChaos » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:29 pm

Opteron-O3 wrote:They need to make a good Evangelion Game for Counsel systems; something similar to Mechwarrior or something of that nature.

Evangelion MMO anyone? Probably not. Just a thought ;)



I was thinking something more along the lines of Rockem' Sockem' Eva.

There's no real point to it, you just mash buttons and hope you win (about 50% of the time), but its still a Evangelion game, and the fans would snap it up.

If I can get a handle on programming, I was planning to make this a game myself...
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