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Postby xPearse » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:41 pm

This puzzled me greatly when I saw the final episode. Out of everything in this final scene, why the lipstick? I mean, we've never seen Maya wear some before so it puzzles me she is here. Well, other than it makes her look pretty, I guess? Thoughts?
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Postby IronEvangelion » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:45 pm

Maybe she was making out with Ritsuko in her instrumentality session and Ritsuko's lipstick got smudged onto her lips? :devil:

The only other reasons I can think of are:

It symbolizes her getting more in touch with her feminine side (maybe as a result of instrumentality).

Or, she just felt like doing something different.
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Postby Clover » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:41 pm

So the audience doesn't get confused and think Shinji is congratulating himself.

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Postby Sicarius VI » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:47 pm

I still think people could tell that's Maya. She does have longer hair than Shinji and the Nerv uniform. Shinji does not.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:43 am

The lipstick is visible very briefly and seems to go away when she speaks - which strongly suggests animation error. There are instances of female characters losing or gaining lipstick, like Ritsuko in Episode 02.
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Postby robersora » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:32 am

Is there any other occasion, where Maya's wearing lipstic? Just cucurious, because I can't recall any.
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Postby Bryan » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:57 am

I find make-up in general very puzzling. It's not that I don't see the appeal, but I just would have thought some people would have found it too inauthentic and yet they don't.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:48 am

I don't ever recall seeing Maya with lipstick either. The only character who consistently has lipstick as part of her design is Ritsuko, although Misato wears lipstick in Episode 07 when she's dressed up for the Jet Alone event. For Maya to have lipstick in just one scene - and barely noticeable at that - really has me thinking off-character/coloring error. Or maybe she just imagined herself wearing lipstick for instrumentality? Who knows?

View Original PostBryan wrote:I find make-up in general very puzzling. It's not that I don't see the appeal, but I just would have thought some people would have found it too inauthentic and yet they don't.


There's no shortage of cultural things that would appeal puzzling to those outside that culture and besides, men have dressed fancily and used makeup aplenty themselves across history. If you really want to have a more detailed debate on that, you could start a new thread in the Off-Topic subforum.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:53 am

The cel used is from the OP. I wouldn't read that much into it.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:05 am

View Original PostxPearse wrote:This puzzled me greatly when I saw the final episode. Out of everything in this final scene, why the lipstick? I mean, we've never seen Maya wear some before so it puzzles me she is here. Well, other than it makes her look pretty, I guess? Thoughts?

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Postby robersora » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:01 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:The cel used is from the OP. I wouldn't read that much into it.


Oooh~... Well, considering how haphazardly the last Episodes are put together, it makes sense like for them to use cells from the opening. And here I was, thinking that we would solve another big mystery of Eva.
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Postby xPearse » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:55 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Oooh~... Well, considering how haphazardly the last Episodes are put together, it makes sense like for them to use cells from the opening. And here I was, thinking that we would solve another big mystery of Eva.

Oh... I understand now. But I guess it's just an animation error of sorts (in the intro since that's where the cel came from), like I thought in the first place. Still, I wanted some other thoughts on it. I guess we can call the tread complete, unless we want to debate why the choice of pink lipstick now, do we?
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Postby Guy Nacks » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:35 pm

View Original PostxPearse wrote:Still, I wanted some other thoughts on it. I guess we can call the tread complete, unless we want to debate why the choice of pink lipstick now, do we?


Pink is the most subdued color of lipstick; it fits in with Maya's subdued nature. It wouldn't fit her personality to color her lips a sultry red or devious mahogany.
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Postby xPearse » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:35 am

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:Pink is the most subdued color of lipstick; it fits in with Maya's subdued nature. It wouldn't fit her personality to color her lips a sultry red or devious mahogany.

I was joking. :facepalm:
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:11 am

I’ve tried a couple times to post something constructive, but all I can come up with is a quip about needing to wipe that lipstick off my face at some point. I’m not sure if I’m disappointed in myself, or in trying to reach a conclusion other than “inconsistency in animation.” Maybe it’s just there to make her look happier in 3I.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:22 am

Question: Why the lipstick?

Answer: Why not?

Side Note: Maya is the hottest of all the Eva characters. (Sakura Suzuhara is the cutest though. I hope Maya's like her mentor)

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:25 am

^ Best answers, all around.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:12 am

Agreed. Of all the characters in NGE, Maya is probably the most date-able. Hopefully she swings both ways. :devil:
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:56 pm

Rejection from Maya would break my poor little fragile heart. :(
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