Shin Gojira (a.k.a. Godzilla Resurgence)

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:41 am

Shin Eva will have to wait. So what else is new? ANNOZILLA, THATS WHAT!!!

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Postby DemonSpade » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:43 am

I would like to think that the way he's putting all this means that Shin is actually moving forward now. He acknowledges he let us wait for too long and (from the translation) it sounds as if it might come out sooner than we expect.

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Postby hui43210 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:32 am

I will say, Anno's statement is rather bizzare when you put that April fools filter over it. Who knew how much chuckman ment to him.
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Postby NemZ » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:23 am

It really comes across as many people just forcing him to do things, to not go back down into himself. It's the real life equivalent of EoTV! With godzilla this time around, because fuck yeah!

Surely this latest experience will be the perfect emotional backdrop for producing Final, especially since it seemed like he was really emotionally out of touch with the Anno who made eva in the first place. I feel like this has restored some of my faith in rebuild to not drop the ball at the goal line.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:37 am

What has happened to this thread? What is Chuckzilla?

Well, after ccepting that Shin will take some time, I realize more an more that this is awesome news.
But what is Anno's role? I've seen him as write and supervisor, but as co-director too?

The Godzilla/Eva jokes are already popping up on the internet.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:10 pm

Anno directed plenty of live action films (see them if you haven't!!). And like Freaky said, though the production roles for God Warrior in Tokyo were reversed, we can probably expect similar magic with Godzilla.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:21 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Chuck wrote:Anno directed plenty of live action films (see them if you haven't!!). And like Freaky said, though the production roles for God Warrior in Tokyo were reversed, we can probably expect similar magic with Chuckzilla.

Oh yeah, I have watched all of his films. And if it will be something similar to his God Warrior short it'll be awesome.
But my confusion with the roles is even bigger now. I seem to remember Anno was the writer of that short while Higuchi directed. So they can't be reversed right? Because Anno is writing this one too. :cringe:
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Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:18 pm

Oh, I simply meant within terms of directing vs special effects supervision. In God Warrior, Shinji directed while Anno blew stuff up. In next year’s Godzilla, Anno will direct while Shinji blows stuff up. And seeing how well Shinji Higuchi blew stuff up with the 90’s Gamera movies, HOT DAMN THIS IS GOING TO BE SEXY!!!

(It will become true kaiju porn if we get Shiro Sagisu as musical score composer.)

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:42 pm

So all the Chuck stuff on the forum is the unfunny April Fool's Joke this year right?
....April 2nd is only a few hours away.

:)


Still, Anno doing Godzilla alongside Eva:3.0+1.0 (I see little reason why he can't do both if the movie is in the animation stage) excites me! Also, if Eva really gets under Anno's skin that much then the next movie should be called "The True End of Evangelion, For Reals This Time"

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Postby Blue Monday » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:55 pm

So, I used to do Japanese lessons with my partner. Unfortunately I stopped a couple years back now due to schedule overload (around the time I was working three jobs). Anyway, my partner still goes, and last night when she went the first thing the teacher said to her was, "So, has Blue heard the big news?"

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:57 pm

2016 is the theatrical year, according to Minna No Eva fan article:



Let's not start talking about delays and such because my heart couldn't take it. I need either Godzilla or FINAL, darn it.

I totally am seeing this whenever it plays locally opening day (it darn well better or else. :fistshake: ) Maybe this should be my first Godzilla flick to experience? Though that recent American one (not the crappy '98 one or whatever) sounds tempting.
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Postby ONIAgent150 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:08 pm

That's a perfect team up. I'm there day one.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:22 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Oh, I simply meant within terms of directing vs special effects supervision. In God Warrior, Shinji directed while Anno blew stuff up. In next year’s Chuckzilla, Anno will direct while Shinji blows stuff up. And seeing how well Shinji Higuchi blew stuff up with the 90’s Gamera movies, HOT DAMN THIS IS GOING TO BE SEXY!!!

(It will become true kaiju porn if we get Shiro Sagisu as musical score composer.)


So Anno is directing Chuckzilla? I thought that was Higchuckis job.
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Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Anno to write and direct TOHO's next Godzilla feature

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Postby wiser3754 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:42 pm

I was just scouring the net on Anno just recently and discovered that he has been contracted to commence work on the next-generation Godzilla. Apparently he'd been approached by TOHO shortly after 3.0 had been released, refusing at first but has now accepted.

I ask anyone in this forum this one simple question, "HASN'T HE GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I watch and speculate.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:04 pm

View Original Postwiser3754 wrote:I ask anyone in this forum this one simple question, "HASN'T HE GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, working on a Chuckzilla is a pretty huge deal.
Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Re: Anno to write and direct TOHO's next Chuckzilla feature

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Postby hui43210 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:16 pm

View Original Postwiser3754 wrote:I ask anyone in this forum this one simple question, "HASN'T HE GOT BETTER THINGS TO DO?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ya, recovering from severe depression, kinda of though task I gather.
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Postby Noriko is my wife » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:23 pm

Anno and Higuchi teaming up to do a monster film was something I already hoped to see one day and now it's happening and it's Godzilla. It's almost a bit unreal.

I think this blog will be the best English source for info. Translations of Anno and Higuchi's statements from there:
Higuchi wrote:The thought of this resurrection has my chest pounding. Almost three decades have passed since I snuck into this film industry, and had no idea what would transpire before me, because I was so idealistic. The difference between my first, carefree world of amateur filmmaking, compared to the reality of the ups and downs of the industry, I feel as though I’ve been a hero running for 30 years. But, at last, the time has come!

I’ve come to see those reckless heroes of my high school and college days hit mid-life. It all seems like a dream, but now I must come back to reality. There’s no more room for idle talk. “What you really want to do, what you really need to do, what you should never do, what you may not be able to do,” are the thoughts that’ve fought in my head, and held me back.

It’s a veritable championship over one’s own mind. What now, then? Playtime is over. Nevertheless, with my best friend standing alongside me, we will triumph over the pressure that would otherwise make me run far away. I was born in this country which gave life to this great divinity [Godzilla], which destined me to work in visual effects, up until this very moment. I give unending thanks to Fate for this opportunity; so next year, I’ll give you the greatest worst nightmare.

Anno's statement.
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Anno wrote:December 2012. After the production of EVANGELION: 3.0 YOU CAN (NOT) REDO, I was broken. A so-called depression set in. It was the comeuppance for six years that drained my soul. 2013 came and went. That was a year in which negative memories rumbled back, over and over. While I could represent myself, it became impossible for me to even physically go near the studio, even once, because of the burden of the next film [Evangelion 4]. Early 2014. I was finally able to return to the studio. Then, I gradually got back into working, because of that year of self-rehabilitation.

So, it’s 2015. After 20 years after the premiere of the old EVA; and you've been waiting more than two years since you last bought your tickets, so I’m working towards realizing the completion of the new EVANGELION theatrical features (why am I promoting it, already?). To those who follow me, and all the anime fans, it’s only through your continued support that gives me the motivation to move forward, again, towards the finale. Sincerely, I thank you.

And, now, at the same time, I’m also starting work putting together a visual effects fantasy film. This all started at the end of January, 2013. A representative from Toho contacted me directly, saying, “We’d like to direct a new Godzilla film.” At the time, I was still recovering from EVA 3.0, and right on the spot, flatly refused the offer, “It’s impossible. Even to begin work on the next EVA is impossible.”

Eventually, it was Toho’s sincerity and the enthusiasm of my ally, Director Shinji Higuchi, and I decided to take the job as Director that March. My prayer is that this will not be just a repeat of science fiction visuals of the past, and the wish we put into the Tokusatsu Museum Exhibit, was to embody the idea of giving back to the creators and artists who came before us, which was our intention and our responsibility. And when that epiphany occurred to me, my resolution was to undertake this task.

Now, one does because they can, not because they cannot. I made my decision because this is a new, once-in-a-lifetime chance. This is not EVA. This is not an original creation of my own, and is something I’ve never done before — this is why I decided to do it.

That May, I began my work with pen to paper. And I decided on how I was going to depict the principal subject. And in the following month, June, I submitted my G-Project Memos and Story Proposals to Toho, and then began working on the Plot Outline, etc.

Godzilla exists in a world of science fiction, not only of dreams and hopes, but he's a caricature of reality, a satire, a mirror image. Recently, Japan has also been careless in the way it has attempted to depict him. In all honesty, Japanese production budgets and schedules are so tight, compared to the world’s capitol [Hollywood], not to mention the constraints imposed on filmmakers in terms of content. Frankly, I’m not sure how far outside the lines we can go.

However, movies have pride, even trifling little films; therefore, just as in the case of the new EVAs, I’m going in full force. When I think about what I’ve accomplished, the twists and turns befitting a screenplay, everything has led to this point. I write this with the hope that the reader might understand at least to some degree that no matter what a creator writes, it’s just an excuse, but I’m under pressure to make a visual effects fantasy film representative of modern Japan, with the full awareness of our current situation, and will be subjected to intentions both good and bad.

Finally, to all those of you who have given me support, to all the fans who’ve purchased tickets to my films, to everyone who has given me the will to continue with my works, I’m eternally grateful. Thank you.

http://augustragone.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-directors-of-godzilla-2016-speak.html

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:04 pm

Khara is still regularly tweeting that they are recruiting animators for new projects. Soooo unless they need help finishing the final Animator Expo shorts - which should all be very far along if not completed - or are doing extensive animation work for another company, they may be doing some work on a certain film in a certain series.

If the script & storyboards were far enough along I imagine a great deal of work could done under Kazuya Tsurumaki's control while Anno is off doing his giant kaiju flick. Not that I've personally worked on productions in that field but when it comes to kaiju effects & hand drawn animation I have to imagine most of a director's job is saying what works & what doesn't.

In my mind I'm just dreaming up a world where 2016 brings us two new Hideaki Anno movies.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:09 pm

^ Can you share that dream with me, please?

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