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Postby Bagheera » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:07 pm

View Original PostNemZ wrote:The companies that payed for this research expect to make bank. Who is going to pay for it? You think the government is going to finance 'genetic welfare'? and even if they did, does that mean the government decides what traits to alter and which to ignore? Can they do this on an individual basis, or through some sort of quota system to insure the right kind of people are made in the desirable ratios? Will we have genetic 'artists' leaving a signature on their works in the form of some unusual trait? Can choosing NOT to have your child engineered be considered child abuse? Will people have to include their genetics on applications for work, college, military service, maybe even for citizenship for to register to vote?

This shit gets messy FAST, man.


I'm okay with all of that, honestly. Why SHOULDN'T your parents improve your genome, if they have the means to do so? And why should they listen to dissent if they don't have to? As I said, the counterexample amounts to "You should put up with disease and genetic defect because I say so," and fuck that, man.
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Postby NemZ » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:09 am

I admit that was a slippery slope fallacy, but the whole sequence seems possible if we don't take active steps to prevent it or cautiously limit it along the way. But come on Bags, you're fine with a government turning a country into a humanoid insect colony, building people to order and creating a defacto caste system? I just described a straight-up dystopia.
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Postby Gob Hobblin » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:23 am

^

And that is the most unlikely of outcomes. While it is not impossible, the probability of it happening are so minute as to be laughable.

Supposing the government was to finance 'genetic welfare?' Why would that be different from all the other times the government has stepped in to ensure the public health (which is an actual function of the government and why it exists)? Smallpox wasn't eliminated by private interests. And in fact, it's when those private interests become involved that things tend to get messy fast. Whenever you see instances of government inefficiency here in the United States, there's a good bet that there is a private company or business interest somewhere that's lining the pockets of whichever Congressperson is creating the mess.

In terms of genetic welfare, however, it is in a nation's interest to have healthy citizens, and that's not for some Orwellian concept of 'caste society.' Healthy citizens create a significantly lighter drain on health and other resources, while at the same time being more active in the PRIVATE (there you go) business sector that would ideally drive the national living standard up with productive work. Further, you've created a society where families are able to pool more of their resources towards other investments than health care, whether it be better education and living standards for themselves or just spending cash and driving a consumer economy.

It is in any country's fundamental self-interest to take charge of health issues where it can, because that is what ensures a country's continued prosperity and safety. Take this current measles epidemic, for instance (and no mistake: it's an epidemic). Because we live in an age where a person's belief can trump scientific facts and a library of documentation versus one discredited and flawed study, parents are refusing to vaccinate their children, and now we are faced with a situation where we have a measles outbreak that is significantly more severe than if there had been more studious vaccination.

That's not an issue of personal rights anymore: that's public health and welfare. If a parent refuses to vaccinate their child, they are not only putting their child at risk, but the health of every child around them. If you are putting people beyond your family at risk, you have forfeited you rights, plain and simple. There is simply a point when, whether you like it or not, the government is required to step in and say, "This is what's happening, and that is that. It is the law of the land."
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Postby cyharding » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:43 am

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Postby Monk Ed » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:06 am

Wow did not expect this much discussion from a joke. :lol: From the responses it seems like some people might have taken me seriously -- I thought the smiley and ridiculous example (c'mon -- parents using their children's eye colors as fashion statements?) would have been enough to signal that I was being purposefully absurd. I have a number of (minor) genetic ailments myself I would have been happy to have had engineered out of me. Like the need for glasses.
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Postby pwhodges » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:13 am

I knew it was a joke; but the trouble is that some people probably don't ...

Like this guy:
[url]http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/02/gop_senator_says_feds_shouldnt.html[/url]
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Postby Dataprime » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:19 am


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Postby Gob Hobblin » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:58 am

Like that'll happen.

It reminds me of that time when Putin what's going on about demonizing the agreement Chamberlain made with Germany while defending the Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact. It's all about posturing at this point, and I've read that some of the Duma's members are grumbling about how much this is going to continue hurting their relations with the West.
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Postby pwhodges » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:07 pm

Plane crash in Taiwan - (startling close-up pictures)
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Postby Trajan » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:40 pm

View Original PostGob Hobblin wrote:Like that'll happen.

It reminds me of that time when Putin what's going on about demonizing the agreement Chamberlain made with Germany while defending the Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact. It's all about posturing at this point, and I've read that some of the Duma's members are grumbling about how much this is going to continue hurting their relations with the West.


Sooner or latter, you'd think they'd find a way to oust Putin given all the opposition he faces in his home country.
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Postby soul.assassin » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:32 am

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:Plane crash in Taiwan - (startling close-up pictures)


The pilot was found dead with the stick still in his hands, as with some 31 others, but still managed to dodge clear of buildings, nearly slicing a taxi as the wingtip struck the bridge. The rest managed to escape alive despite the fuselage having hit the water hard.

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Postby Dataprime » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:18 am


I genuinely love how good Evangelion hurts
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Postby Ray » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:40 pm

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/04/fox-news-frozen-is-a-threat-to-masculinity-and-must-be-stopped.html

Fix News condemns frozen as a threat to masculinity.
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Postby Squigsquasher » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:57 pm

My problem with Frozen is that nobody will shut up about it. I mean, putting aside the whole gender malarkey (becuase let's be honest, all humans are equally repulsive) if I have to see one more stand filled with merchandise and other assorted crap promoting the movie or hear that obnoxious song one more time I am going to go insane.

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Postby Guy Nacks » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:01 pm

Fucks and Fiends is objectively the worst show on American television because of how it reaches a dangerously high amount of people with their filth and backward ideas perpetrated by their producers, Steve Douchey and Brian Killmenow.
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Postby soul.assassin » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:58 am

Now this is hearteningly good news. :D

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/kodak-inks-deals-studios-extend-770300

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Postby Dataprime » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:19 pm


I genuinely love how good Evangelion hurts
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Postby Monk Ed » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:55 pm

1 in 500,000 births? That's still theoretically like 8 cases per year in the United States alone!
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Postby Ænimal » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:25 pm

BREAKING NEWS

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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:30 pm

View Original PostMonk Ed wrote:1 in 500,000 births? That's still theoretically like 8 cases per year in the United States alone!


That's because these fetuses simply don't develop and remain within their host body as a mass that can stay on even in an adult human being. Some parasitic twins have lived on inside their hosts well into middle age.

Two fetuses in fetu is something even more extraordinary though - it means that either the baby had twin teratomas that developed into new bodies, or had two twins (triplets in total) that it absorbed into its body during development.
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