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- Squigsquasher
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I remember that HAL was unnecessarily aggressive and confrontative for a long time before the ban. Ran was a pretty cool guy as long as he refrained from dumb trolling, but judging by the way he acted before his ban we might be better off without him and his flame wars.
"I'd really like to have as much money as you have, Oz" - robersora
"No you wouldn't. Oz's secret is he goes without food to buy that stuff. He hasn't eaten in years." - Brikhaus
"Often I get the feeling that deep down, your little girl is struggling with your embrace of filmfaggotry and your loldeep fixations, and the conflict that arises from such a contradiction is embodied pretty well in Kureha's character. But obviously it's not any sort of internal conflict that makes the analogy work. It's the pigtails." - Merridian
"Oh, Oz, I fear I'm losing my filmfag to the depths of Japanese pop. If only there were more films with Japanese girls in glow-in-the-dark costumes you'd be the David Bordwell of that genre." - Jimbo
"Oz, I think we need to stage an intervention and force you to watch some movies that aren't made in Japan." - Trajan
"No you wouldn't. Oz's secret is he goes without food to buy that stuff. He hasn't eaten in years." - Brikhaus
"Often I get the feeling that deep down, your little girl is struggling with your embrace of filmfaggotry and your loldeep fixations, and the conflict that arises from such a contradiction is embodied pretty well in Kureha's character. But obviously it's not any sort of internal conflict that makes the analogy work. It's the pigtails." - Merridian
"Oh, Oz, I fear I'm losing my filmfag to the depths of Japanese pop. If only there were more films with Japanese girls in glow-in-the-dark costumes you'd be the David Bordwell of that genre." - Jimbo
"Oz, I think we need to stage an intervention and force you to watch some movies that aren't made in Japan." - Trajan
- UrsusArctos
- The Beginning and The End
- Posts: 10501
- Joined: Jun 28, 2007
HAL had the tendency to go berserk over nonexistent provocations, and his hostility reached uncontrollable levels. The way he insulted AWL was unforgivable. Ran1 started out as a really cool guy, but he soon turned into a troll and he gave us more headaches than just about any other troll/spammer. It was a relief when he was gone.
HAL was given a three-year ban(this was during a period when we had decided not to ban anyone permanently) and he should be back in a little under two weeks. However, he's going to be watched closely, and if he shows the slightest sign of his previous hostility, he'll be banned forever.
I hope that answers the questions posed in this thread.
HAL was given a three-year ban(this was during a period when we had decided not to ban anyone permanently) and he should be back in a little under two weeks. However, he's going to be watched closely, and if he shows the slightest sign of his previous hostility, he'll be banned forever.
I hope that answers the questions posed in this thread.
(Was Board Staff from Dec 31, 2007 - Oct 17, 2015 and Oct 20, 2020 - Aug 1, 2021)
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The main point of idiocy is for the smart to have their lulz. Without human idiocy, trolling would not exist, and that's uncool, since a large part of my entertainment consists of mocking the absurdity and dumbassery of the world, especially the Internet.-MaggotMaster
Not knowing that Monk is bi is like not knowing the Pope is Catholic - ZapX
You're either really bad at interpreting jokes or really good at pretending you are and I have no idea which.-Monk Ed
WAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!(<-link to lunacy)...Taste me, if you can bear it. (Warning: Language NSFW)
The main point of idiocy is for the smart to have their lulz. Without human idiocy, trolling would not exist, and that's uncool, since a large part of my entertainment consists of mocking the absurdity and dumbassery of the world, especially the Internet.-MaggotMaster
- Gob Hobblin
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Wait, let me get this straight: we had a member of the cast as a forum goer...and it was Rei Ayanami, no less...and this guy HAL went after her?
What....why...what...wuh....
I feel I should look at the original post, but that's more gloom than I am prepared for today. I mean...holy crap! AWL! In the forums!
...I know not this HAL, but with him I am greatly displeased....
What....why...what...wuh....
I feel I should look at the original post, but that's more gloom than I am prepared for today. I mean...holy crap! AWL! In the forums!
...I know not this HAL, but with him I am greatly displeased....
Though, Gob still might look good in a cocktail dress.
-Sorrow
Rei wanted to know what waffles tasted like.
-Literary Eagle
We have to remember what's important in life: friends, waffles, and work. Or waffles, friends, and work. But work has to come in third.
-Leslie Knope
Come read EVA Sessions! This place has it, too! There'll be pizza! Not really! There are other things, too! Not EVA Sessions! Did I mention the pizza!?
-Sorrow
Rei wanted to know what waffles tasted like.
-Literary Eagle
We have to remember what's important in life: friends, waffles, and work. Or waffles, friends, and work. But work has to come in third.
-Leslie Knope
Come read EVA Sessions! This place has it, too! There'll be pizza! Not really! There are other things, too! Not EVA Sessions! Did I mention the pizza!?
The original post has been purged anyway, so all you can see is the aftermath. It was pretty ugly.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
- Gob Hobblin
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I can imagine. That whole setup sounds like an emotional boil.
Though, Gob still might look good in a cocktail dress.
-Sorrow
Rei wanted to know what waffles tasted like.
-Literary Eagle
We have to remember what's important in life: friends, waffles, and work. Or waffles, friends, and work. But work has to come in third.
-Leslie Knope
Come read EVA Sessions! This place has it, too! There'll be pizza! Not really! There are other things, too! Not EVA Sessions! Did I mention the pizza!?
-Sorrow
Rei wanted to know what waffles tasted like.
-Literary Eagle
We have to remember what's important in life: friends, waffles, and work. Or waffles, friends, and work. But work has to come in third.
-Leslie Knope
Come read EVA Sessions! This place has it, too! There'll be pizza! Not really! There are other things, too! Not EVA Sessions! Did I mention the pizza!?
- ThanatosII
- Sachiel
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The past is past, people can change. Can't say much since I wasn't around at the time, but while I'm highly disappointed to learn we had someone like AWL on the forums and then left because of the bashing from a hostile member, I hope to see this Hal person mend ties with the veteran community of EGF.
"Understanding each other one hundred percent is impossible.
Of course, that's why we spend so much time trying to understand ourselves and others.
That's what makes life so interesting." -Kaji Ryoji
"I got confused and I killed my sister... egh I can't help the way that I feel...." - Sorrow
Once you're regularly active on EGF, you get an idea of who is using the "Hidden" feature. Irony, eh?
Of course, that's why we spend so much time trying to understand ourselves and others.
That's what makes life so interesting." -Kaji Ryoji
"I got confused and I killed my sister... egh I can't help the way that I feel...." - Sorrow
Once you're regularly active on EGF, you get an idea of who is using the "Hidden" feature. Irony, eh?
It doesn't appear as though anyone who is familiar with him, miss him. The best that could apparently be said is that he "brought a lot of energy", which is to say "he would churn out hateful and insensitive remarks without provocation."
If that's what you're into then, then crack on with it yourself - don't rely on an old member coming back, that no one even seems to much care for.
If that's what you're into then, then crack on with it yourself - don't rely on an old member coming back, that no one even seems to much care for.
The fate of man…the hope of man is written in sorrow.
- Gob Hobblin
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I dunno...I'm all for forgiveness, but a person has to have a pretty big come to Jesus moment if they have something like that on the record.
then again, I am a hypocrite who holds nasty grudges. Not that I know HAL (and therefore can't truly hold a grudge against him), but I can't help but know that, should i perchance enter into communication with him, that he went and did that.
then again, I am a hypocrite who holds nasty grudges. Not that I know HAL (and therefore can't truly hold a grudge against him), but I can't help but know that, should i perchance enter into communication with him, that he went and did that.
Though, Gob still might look good in a cocktail dress.
-Sorrow
Rei wanted to know what waffles tasted like.
-Literary Eagle
We have to remember what's important in life: friends, waffles, and work. Or waffles, friends, and work. But work has to come in third.
-Leslie Knope
Come read EVA Sessions! This place has it, too! There'll be pizza! Not really! There are other things, too! Not EVA Sessions! Did I mention the pizza!?
-Sorrow
Rei wanted to know what waffles tasted like.
-Literary Eagle
We have to remember what's important in life: friends, waffles, and work. Or waffles, friends, and work. But work has to come in third.
-Leslie Knope
Come read EVA Sessions! This place has it, too! There'll be pizza! Not really! There are other things, too! Not EVA Sessions! Did I mention the pizza!?
- FreakyFilmFan4ever
- (In)Sufficient Director
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I will forgive nearly anything if offered genuine remorse, but the key word there is "genuine". If it's the "I feel bad because this got me in trouble and now people don't like me" variety any apologies he cares to make would be worthless. It would have to be the "I understand what I did wrong and regret the harm I caused" variety, and I have an awful lot of trouble squaring up that level of empathy with the sort of mindset that would lead him to think saying those things was anything close to okay to begin with.
But who knows? Sometimes people do reform, so I guess anything's possible.
But who knows? Sometimes people do reform, so I guess anything's possible.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
I know Hal left the forums on pretty terrible terms and what he did to AWL is awful and there isn't any sort of excuse for it, but you'd think after three years the level of hatred towards him would have died down. Honestly, after looking over all the recent replies, I don't think he should come back simply because the latent hostility here is going to leave him no chance if and when he does return. I'm also going to take this opportunity to say that some of you just need to get over yourselves: throwing around words like "unforgivable" for something that was at the end of the day, someone flaming someone over the internet, seems excessively harsh. You all act like he sucker punched your mother after spitting in her face.
We've all done terrible, awful things in the past, that we hope our peers never find out about, but we seem to think that one bad act that occurs in public means that person can never be redeemed, ever. I've done things in the past that make me look like the biggest asshole on the planet, but I recognized that it was a mistake, and I've moved on and tried to not let it define who I am. I have deep shame over some of the things I did, and I'll carry that shame with me for a long time, possibly until I die, but I'm a different person now. That stupid kid is long gone, and I'm all that's left.
Now, if Hal does come back and starts acting like a belligerent asshole again, then yes, the forums should ban him again. But how can a person redeem himself if you all won't even consider the possibility that maybe he's changed? Three years can be a pretty long time.
We've all done terrible, awful things in the past, that we hope our peers never find out about, but we seem to think that one bad act that occurs in public means that person can never be redeemed, ever. I've done things in the past that make me look like the biggest asshole on the planet, but I recognized that it was a mistake, and I've moved on and tried to not let it define who I am. I have deep shame over some of the things I did, and I'll carry that shame with me for a long time, possibly until I die, but I'm a different person now. That stupid kid is long gone, and I'm all that's left.
Now, if Hal does come back and starts acting like a belligerent asshole again, then yes, the forums should ban him again. But how can a person redeem himself if you all won't even consider the possibility that maybe he's changed? Three years can be a pretty long time.
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Gob Hobblin wrote:Wait, let me get this straight: we had a member of the cast as a forum goer...and it was Rei Ayanami, no less...and this guy HAL went after her?
What....why...what...wuh....
I feel I should look at the original post, but that's more gloom than I am prepared for today. I mean...holy crap! AWL! In the forums!
...I know not this HAL, but with him I am greatly displeased....
wut
Seriously, though, I can't believe anyone would actually do such a thing...I'm almost inclined to agree with Squig on this one.
EDIT: Quite frankly, just the reactions of posters in this thread gives me the distinct impression that the AWL rant was beating-worthy. Still, seeing the actual rant would probably be too much to adequately deal with anyway.
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Vegeta 20XX: Actually pixelated, and the self proclaimed "King of the screw up". - Fazmotron
The most awesome thing ever. Seriously.
I witnessed a young girl ohhh about 12 years of age or so fall off a snowbank then proceed to say "Fuck you snowhill that hurt" - Dataprime
For those who put things like "Chuckman x Chuckmen" and "Follower of the Chuckman x Chuckman pairing" in their signatures: All you need is fuck.
Why? I don't see any reason to give deliberate cruelty a pass, no matter how much time has passed. If he has a "come to Jesus moment", as Gob put it, that's another matter, but in lieu of that why let it pass? It wasn't an error or a simple outburst; he made it clear that his intent was quite deliberate. And honestly, I don't wanna be around someone who thinks that sort of thing is okay.
Being an asshole is forgivable, since as you say we all have those moments and generally don't intend to be assholes. But when there's genuine malice involved it's a rather different matter IMO.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
- delispin25
- Sandalphon
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Your trolling skills need work.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
- delispin25
- Sandalphon
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That was me giving you the benefit of the doubt, deli.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
- delispin25
- Sandalphon
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I'd rather not have the history surrounding that event dug up; it was a shame that it happened, and Hal was punished for it in a way that seemed appropriate at the time. That should be the end of that discussion. If once his ban is lifted and Hal does decide to come back, I still expect everyone to leave the topic alone and move forward with their lives.
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