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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:55 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:First of all, the Gunbuster episode isn’t really called Chapter 4+1, but rather the last installment of the little Science Lesson short films in-between episodes was called Chapter 4+1. These delved right into the sci-fi exposition of the series without having to dedicate any awkward or boring dialogue scenes mid-episode to it. This way the episodes themselves could focus on character and plot elements, while these short films focused on all of the world building and exposition. These short films were placed in-between each episode until we reach the last two episodes, where both short films were played back-to-back just before the final two episodes. Instead of calling it “Chapter 5,” the short film was titled “Chapter 4+1” with the chapter right after it being called “The Final Chapter.”

...dost my mind fanwank the possibility of a fifth movie...?

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Postby Shinoyami65 » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:21 pm

^I theorise that if it's not FINAL itself then it will be a movie that will catch up on the events between 2.0 and 3.0, and explain some stuff/exposition, much like the Science Lesson.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:22 pm

Yeah, that's the exact path my mind took.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:19 pm

View Original PostNuclear Lunchbox wrote:...dost my mind fanwank the possibility of a fifth movie...?

Well, as much as I actually did point out that possibility, I should note that I hold all of that very loosely. There is absolutely no way I’m going to allow myself to get excited for a movie that Khara certainly never announced. The only thing I’d go as far as to speculate with any sort of optimistic hope is that the “You __ (Not) __” title might be replaced with “Final,” or “Evangelion Final.” And even then that’s small change in compared to whatever else Anno might be doing with Shin. (I like Reichu’s conclusion on the usage of that title so far.) Beyond that, I will only believe that Khara is doing a fifth movie if and when they announce they are doing a fifth movie. And the title of Shin is really a poor indicator that there will be an extra movie, since none was even discussed by Khara that we know of.

What’s more important, I feel, is the connection to the “X+X” forms of identification running rampant in Shin so far. I really doubt that it was accidental that “Eva 3.0+1.0” and "Eva Unit 8+2” share the addition signs in their titles. This theme of addition might be really important to Shin, especially since the Eva franchise’s last grand finale, The End of Evangelion, dealt more with subtraction. (“It all returns to nothing...”)

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Postby pwhodges » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:04 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:I notice that folks are still stubbornly calling the last film "Final", when in fact "Final" was a placeholder that has now been replaced with "3.0+1.0". :p

Just like we still call the films "Rebuild" even though they're not really.

But actually, the web page on the Eva site is still called Final.html, even though the contents have changed. :p
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Postby Bagheera » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:25 pm

I have an awful lot of trouble thinking the final movie will be called 3.0 + 1.0; that doesn't fit with the existing scheme at all, and I suspect it is a placeholder, subtitle, or something similar that will be clarified later on (in favor of Shin, perhaps).

But who knows. Perhaps Anno's channeling Gunbuster after all.
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Postby pwhodges » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:28 pm

But as has been pointed out, the 4+1 in Gunbuster was just one of the science lessons - not part of the mainstream at all - so it would be a curious thing to call back to deliberately.
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Postby Bagheera » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:44 pm

Yeah, that is true. That's why I'm a bit skeptical as to the finality of the title (well, in concert with the above, anyway).
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:54 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:But as has been pointed out, the 4+1 in Gunbuster was just one of the science lessons - not part of the mainstream at all - so it would be a curious thing to call back to deliberately.

There's still my fanwank that this could be separate exposition, y'know. Who knows?

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:13 pm

View Original PostBagheera wrote:But who knows. Perhaps Anno's channeling Gunbuster after all.

Maybe. Gunbuster had two female pilots because it was a combination of Buster Machine #1 and Buster Machine #2, and Eva Unit 8+1 is a combination of the Units 08 and 02. It could be that it will also have two female pilots (Mari and Asuka), making even a clearer and more grounded call back to Gunbuster.

Even so, I do see where your skepticism comes from. The title is weird, though I personally don’t think a breaks away from the scheme, as it still uses “X.0” as a title. I honestly thought the film would never be called “4.0.” For whatever reason that always seemed stupid to me. And the whole “X+X” titles for both the film and the Eva Unit strike me as important, so I’m not ready to say that “Eva 3.0+1.0” is a temporary title just yet.

We’ll see what happens when Shin comes out, though.
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Postby Rei IV » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:20 pm

Boy, I hope we get a official subtitle and English translation for Shin soon!
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Postby kuribo-04 » Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:39 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:My goofy desire for the final movie to be in Black & White is given more credence.

Ogh, red is my favourite color. :(
3.0 was red, khara worked on Kill la Kill and that was red too. I expect 3.0+1.0 to be the reddest film ever.

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Talking about GunBuster references...
I don't know I'm reaching here, you should check this out for yourself.
Eva 3.33, GunBuster episode 6.
Eva-13, GunBuster, mechas with two pilots.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:04 am

It feels a little clunky and unweildy to me. I'll likewise be interested to see how it winds up tying in to the movie.

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Postby Cookie H Wilson » Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:33 am

http://www.reddit.com/r/evangelion/comments/2fljmj/a_theory_regarding_the_3010_title_from_the_tv/

anybody read this?
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Postby Bagheera » Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:47 am

View Original PostCookie H Wilson wrote:http://www.reddit.com/r/evangelion/comments/2fljmj/a_theory_regarding_the_3010_title_from_the_tv/

anybody read this?


I like that theory. I like it a lot, actually. Very clever.
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Postby ElMariachi » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:40 am

View Original PostCookie H Wilson wrote:http://www.reddit.com/r/evangelion/comments/2fljmj/a_theory_regarding_the_3010_title_from_the_tv/

anybody read this?

Indeed, it's a very clever theory, and ties very well with the traditional Japanese storytelling structure that Rebuild follows in spirit.
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Postby pwhodges » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:44 am

It also suggests the possibility of our deciding to use the name KyuuJo for the new film, to be consistent with calling the others Jo, Ha, and Q. :devil:
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Postby Bagheera » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:50 am

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:It also suggests the possibility of our deciding to use the name KyuuJo for the new film, to be consistent with calling the others Jo, Ha, and Q. :devil:


I like that as well! I think you can consider that idea stolen, in fact, as of right now. :toothy:
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I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
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Postby robersora » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:56 am

Man, this is one nifty theory. Really like it. The naming scheme of the movies is quite something.
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Postby Cookie H Wilson » Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:00 pm

And this that has been around for a while:http://stilleatingoranges.tumblr.com/post/25153960313/the-significance-of-plot-without-conflict

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