A new interpretation of angels

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Postby El Squibbonator » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:00 pm

This is an idea I first came across on good ol' TVTropes regarding the possible identity and origin of the Angels. Basically, the idea is that the Angels don't just represent alternate evolutionary "timelines" for humanity--what we're seeing is each species's equivalent of an Eva unit.
To elaborate, the Eva units were made by humans and modeled after them, so it stands to reason that if the angels represent alternate-timeline human equivalents, then they too have done the same thing. So Gaghiel, for example, was the creation of an aquatic sapient species, Matariel was created by an insectoid species, and Arael was created by a birdlike species. In this scenario, Tabris (Kaworu) would be a representative of a species that can shapeshift and uses this technique instead of an Eva equivalent.

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Postby Compiling_Autumn » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:32 pm

Seems overly complicated and lacking any evidence.

If this theory did have any weight to it, it would add another layer to the show that I'm not sure I would want.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:10 am

Oh well. I thought it was interesting.
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Postby Bagheera » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:25 am

This is directly contradicted by the show at various points (Sandalphon being the most obvious), as well as by the nature of the Evas themselves (i.e. clones of the Seeds). It really doesn't work.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:43 am

Oh.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:30 am

View Original PostBagheera wrote:This is directly contradicted by the show at various points (Sandalphon being the most obvious), as well as by the nature of the Evas themselves (i.e. clones of the Seeds). It really doesn't work.

Though Sandalphon’s arrival is a bit weird. Though they’re obviously not Eva-like clones, I do wonder who laid an egg in a volcano. (As bad ass as it sounds, natural birth via volcanic activity is unlikely for the Angels.)

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Postby Bagheera » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:37 am

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Though Sandalphon’s arrival is a bit weird. Though they’re obviously not Eva-like clones, I do wonder who laid an egg in a volcano. (As bad ass as it sounds, natural birth via volcanic activity is unlikely for the Angels.)


It was almost certainly a matter of random chance. Adam created the Angels, and when he exploded they scattered all over the place (or even into orbit in a couple of cases). They then matured and chose forms suitable for their respective environments, and here we are.
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Postby Ornette » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:32 am

I think the important distinction here, as noted by the CI, is that the Lilin was the product of millions of years of evolution that sprouted other beings (like dolphins), whereas the Angels can simply choose their form, at least to some degree.

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Postby robersora » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:48 am

View Original PostCompiling_Autumn wrote:Seems overly complicated and lacking any evidence.


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Postby El Squibbonator » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:35 pm

You're right. I just saw the theory and wondered what the forum thought of it. Nothing wrong with that, is there?
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Postby robersora » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:42 pm

Of course not, I proposed some pretty out there theories myself, I was just mocking the nature of us geeks to overanalyse and overthink sometimes. Didn't mean to attack you.
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Postby slothen » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:12 pm

that would imply there's some tiny little "angels" sitting inside the core piloting the big angels. But as long as you're talking about waffy ideas with no point, then sure, its interesting. I mean, if angels were just human sized other versions of humans, then whence came the giant bio-robots in the first place?
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Postby El Squibbonator » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:31 pm

Presumably, they had their own "Eva" programs.
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Postby BrikHaus » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:47 pm

I actually really like this idea. Too bad it doesn't fit with the show's mythology.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:08 pm

There's always fan fiction.
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