Missing Characters in 3.0 & Beyond [split]

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Missing Characters in 3.0 & Beyond [split]

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Postby Dataprime » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:12 am

[Split from "Characters' Appearances Pre- and Post-Timeskip". - Monk]

[Topic title changed from "Pen Pen (or lack thereof) in 3.0 & Beyond [split]" on 2014-04-17. - Monk]

So, did Pen Pen really die then inbetween the two films? Maybe he just went into hiding? Or did he, like maybe fuse with he Wunder?

I don't know....

god, I hope Final explains this stuff.

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Postby ElMariachi » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:34 am

Well, according to da Internet, a typical penguin longevity is between 15 and 20 years. Assuming that Pen Pen was a few years old in NGE and/or that his genetic modification (if the manga lore applies here) didn't affected his lifespan, it's possible that he's still alive after the time skip, but he'll be far from the vitality of his early youth.

That's it, if he didn't died violently meanwhile of course.
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Postby Jornophelanthas » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:47 am

View Original PostDataprime wrote:So, did Pen Pen really die then inbetween the two films? Maybe he just went into hiding? Or did he, like maybe fuse with he Wunder?

I don't know....

god, I hope Final explains this stuff.


If you squeeze your eyes just right, doesn't Wunder appear just a little bit similar to a penguin in horizontal swimming position?

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Postby Chuckman » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:54 am

Mari and Asuka are clones, the Wunder is Pen Pen's final form, and Misato knows one weird little secret that prevents wrinkles and breast sagging. Dermatologists hate her!
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Postby Gob Hobblin » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:24 pm

PEN PEN WANTS A HUUUUG!!!
Though, Gob still might look good in a cocktail dress.
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Postby pwhodges » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:32 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:the Wunder is Pen Pen's final form,

As has already been noted:
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:08 pm

After Third Impact Misato & Ritsuko needed a meal when food got really scarce.

...He was delicious.

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Postby pwhodges » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:44 am

View Original PostSome mod wrote:Getting a 403 Forbidden on that image link
And I even took the trouble to test it in a different browser that didn't have it cached!

Anyway, this is what I meant:
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:15 am

Just as a note, we know that Pen2 was living with the Horaki family. If they're dead, then Pen2 is likely dead as well.

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Postby ElMariachi » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:29 am

^
That was only in NGE, in Rebuild we never got a scene of Misato sending Pen² to the Horakis, we just know that he ended in the shot of Kensuke, Hikari and Toji looking at Zeruel, which is so far the last time we see any of them.
We don't even know how Pen² ended here, maybe he just joined the evacuating population and met with the three others, who know him because of their friendship with Shinji and Asuka. (Pen² was present in the Aquarium visit, and it's very probably that the three had gone visiting Shinji and/or Asuka in the apartment of screen)
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Postby Shinoyami65 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:45 am

View Original PostChuckman wrote:Misato knows one weird little secret that prevents wrinkles and breast sagging. Dermatologists hate her!


Perhaps Pen-Pen's flesh has a similar effect to the flesh of mermaids in Japanese mythology and grants immortality to whoever eats it.

Perhaps Asuka, Ritsuko and Mari had a nibble too. Then, rather than let Shinji know that she ate their beloved pet, Asuka blamed everything on the Evas.

Well, Pen-Pen could be in Misato's living quarters, wherever that is. Or perhaps he died. Or Misato let him free into the Arctic to live with regular penguins (if there are any left).
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:02 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:^
That was only in NGE, in Rebuild we never got a scene of Misato sending Pen² to the Horakis, we just know that he ended in the shot of Kensuke, Hikari and Toji looking at Zeruel, which is so far the last time we see any of them.

True, my bad. If he was with the three of them, though, then we really need some kind of hint about what happened to all of them! :lol: Ah, FINAL... hurry up and scratch my itch.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:26 pm

We see Pen Pen and Misato in the scene where Shinji leaves Misato's/quits Nerv. The next and last time we see Pen Pen is the evacuation shelters (added to the 2.22 version, he was absent in 2.0), so I think we're supposed to infer that Misato sent him away for safety.
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Postby Kendrix » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:07 pm

Last time we saw him, he was with Touji.

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Postby Sachi » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:12 pm

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Postby Chuckman » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:34 pm

I'm pretty sure Pen Pen is also God in NTE, as well as in the television show. That's why things have gone to hell. They lost God somewhere.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:15 pm

View Original PostKendrix wrote:Touji is so dead they recicled his shirt.


Again, this hasn't been explicitly confirmed or denied as of yet. For all we know, he could be a neo-Kaji and just be flying under the radar or at some other location. Same goes with all those MIA in 3.0, there's nothing outside of inference that suggests that they are confirmed to be dead.

As for right now, there are always possibilities.
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Postby Gob Hobblin » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:19 pm

He's dead, Guy. As dead as that squirrel there.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:07 pm

While I agree that it is very likely that Touji is dead, I'm with Guy here. We simply don't have enough evidence to know for a fact that he's dead.

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Postby Chuckman » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:33 pm

Toji and Hikari live in a big bubble city growing melons and pot. Kaji is probably there, too.

The people in the Wille fleet can't be the only humans left on Earth. Somebody in said fleet is smart enough to realize that if they're it, humans no longer have a viable breeding population and they might as well all go get high and have a big orgy until they die of old age.
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